From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: "drepper@gmail.com" <drepper@gmail.com>
Cc: Taras Glek <tglek@mozilla.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Downsides to madvise/fadvise(willneed) for application startup
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:50:29 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100412045029.GA18099@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <g7wssj9j6ukus9yti3UYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:43:00PM +0800, drepper@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 19:27, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>> Yes, every binary/library starts with this 512b read. A It is requested
>> by ld.so/ld-linux.so, and will trigger a 4-page readahead. This is not
>> good readahead. I wonder if ld.so can switch to mmap read for the
>> first read, in order to trigger a larger 128kb readahead.
>
> We first need to know the sizes of the segments and their location
> in the binary. The binaries we use now are somewhat well laid out.
> The read-only segment starts at offset 0 etc. But this doesn't have
> to be the case. The dynamic linker has to be generic. Also, even
> if we start mapping at offset zero, now much to map? The file might
> contain debug info which must not be mapped. Therefore the first
> read loads enough of the headers to make all of the decisions. Yes,
I once read the ld code, it's more complex than I expected.
> we could do a mmap of one page instead of the read. But that's more
> expansive in general, isn't it?
Right. Without considering IO, a simple read(512) is more efficient than
mmap()+read+munmap().
Thanks,
Fengguang
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2010-04-06 9:51 ` Downsides to madvise/fadvise(willneed) for application startup Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 21:57 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-06 22:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-06 22:39 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07 2:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 2:54 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-07 4:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 7:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 7:33 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 7:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 8:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-07 8:13 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-07 7:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-08 17:44 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-12 2:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12 3:25 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-12 4:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-12 4:43 ` drepper
2010-04-12 4:46 ` Taras Glek
2010-04-12 4:50 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
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