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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: error at compaction (Re: mmotm 2010-04-15-14-42 uploaded
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:44:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100420084454.GD19264@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x2h28c262361004200132q39fe5d5ex79251643a80d28b3@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 05:32:13PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:39:46AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 07:14:42PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 07:01:33PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > mmotm 2010-04-15-14-42
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When I tried
> >> >> >  # echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/compaction
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I see following.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My enviroment was
> >> >> >   2.6.34-rc4-mm1+ (2010-04-15-14-42) (x86-64) CPUx8
> >> >> >   allocating tons of hugepages and reduce free memory.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What I did was:
> >> >> >   # echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/compact_memory
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hmm, I see this kind of error at migation for the 1st time..
> >> >> > my.config is attached. Hmm... ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (I'm sorry I'll be offline soon.)
> >> >>
> >> >> That's ok, thanks you for the report. I'm afraid I made little progress
> >> >> as I spent most of the day on other bugs but I do have something for
> >> >> you.
> >> >>
> >> >> First, I reproduced the problem using your .config. However, the problem does
> >> >> not manifest with the .config I normally use which is derived from the distro
> >> >> kernel configuration (Debian Lenny). So, there is something in your .config
> >> >> that triggers the problem. I very strongly suspect this is an interaction
> >> >> between migration, compaction and page allocation debug.
> >> >
> >> > I unexpecedly had the time to dig into this. Does the following patch fix
> >> > your problem? It Worked For Me.
> >>
> >> Nice catch during shot time. Below is comment.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > ==== CUT HERE ====
> >> > mm,compaction: Map free pages in the address space after they get split for compaction
> >> >
> >> > split_free_page() is a helper function which takes a free page from the
> >> > buddy lists and splits it into order-0 pages. It is used by memory
> >> > compaction to build a list of destination pages. If
> >> > CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC is set, a kernel paging request bug is triggered
> >> > because split_free_page() did not call the arch-allocation hooks or map
> >> > the page into the kernel address space.
> >> >
> >> > This patch does not update split_free_page() as it is called with
> >> > interrupts held. Instead it documents that callers of split_free_page()
> >> > are responsible for calling the arch hooks and to map the page and fixes
> >> > compaction.
> >>
> >> Dumb question. Why can't we call arch_alloc_page and kernel_map_pages
> >> as interrupt disabled?
> >
> > In theory, it isn't known what arch_alloc_page is going to do but more
> > practically kernel_map_pages() is updating mappings and should be
> > flushing all the TLBs. It can't do that with interrupts disabled.
> >
> > I checked X86 and it should be fine but only because it flushes the
> > local CPU and appears to just hope for the best that this doesn't cause
> > problems.
> 
> Okay.
> 
> >> And now compaction only uses split_free_page and it is exposed by mm.h.
> >> I think it would be better to map pages inside split_free_page to
> >> export others.(ie, making generic function).
> >
> > I considered that and it would not be ideal. It would have to disable and
> > reenable interrupts as each page is taken from the list or alternatively
> > require that the caller not have the zone lock taken. The latter of these
> > options is more reasonable but would still result in more interrupt enabling
> > and disabling.
> >
> > split_free_page() is extremely specialised and requires knowledge of the
> > page allocator internals to call properly. There is little pressure to
> > make this easier to use at the cost of increased locking.
> >
> >> If we can't do, how about making split_free_page static as static function?
> >> And only uses it in compaction.
> >>
> >
> > It pretty much has to be in page_alloc.c because it uses internal
> > functions of the page allocator - e.g. rmv_page_order. I could move it
> > to mm/internal.h because whatever about split_page, I can't imagine why
> > anyone else would need to call split_free_page.
> 
> Yes. Then, Let's add comment like split_page. :)
>  /*
>  * Note: this is probably too low level an operation for use in drivers.
>  * Please consult with lkml before using this in your driver.
>  */
> 

I can, but the comment that was there says it's like split_page except the
page is already free. This also covers not using it in a driver.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-20  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <201004152210.o3FMA7KV001909@imap1.linux-foundation.org>
2010-04-15 23:38 ` [PATCH -mmotm] vmstat: fix build errors when PROC_FS is disabled Randy Dunlap
2010-04-16 16:03 ` mmotm 2010-04-15-14-42 uploaded (shmem, CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR) Randy Dunlap
2010-04-19  1:49   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-04-19  2:17     ` Randy Dunlap
2010-04-19 10:01 ` error at compaction (Re: mmotm 2010-04-15-14-42 uploaded KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-19 18:14   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 19:39     ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-20  2:30       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-20  2:39       ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-20  3:07         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-20  3:58           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-20  4:24             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-20  8:20         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-20  8:32           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-20  8:44             ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-04-20  9:50               ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-20  9:58                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-20 10:14                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-21  8:28       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-21  9:48         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-21 10:20           ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-21 16:52             ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-21 23:01               ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-20  2:35     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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