From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 16:54:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100505155454.GT20979@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005050815060.5478@i5.linux-foundation.org>
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 08:31:42AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 5 May 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >
> > rmap_walk() appears to be the only one that takes multiple locks but it itself
> > is not serialised. If there are more than one process calling rmap_walk()
> > on different processes sharing the same VMAs, is there a guarantee they walk
> > it in the same order?
>
> So I had this notion of the list always getting deeper and us guaranteeing
> the order in it, but you're right - that's not the 'same_anon_vma' list,
> it's the 'same_vma' one.
>
> Damn. So yeah, I don't see us guaranteeing any ordering guarantees. My
> bad.
>
> That said, I do wonder if we could _make_ the ordering reliable.
I'm still thinking of the ordering but one possibility would be to use a mutex
similar to mm_all_locks_mutex to force the serialisation of rmap_walk instead
of the trylock-and-retry. That way, the ordering wouldn't matter. It would
slow migration if multiple processes are migrating pages by some unknowable
quantity but it would avoid livelocking.
> I did
> that for the 'same_vma' one, because I wanted to be able to verify that
> chains were consistent (and we also needed to be able to find the "oldest
> anon_vma" for the case of re-instantiating pages that migth exist in
> multiple different anon_vma's).
>
> Any ideas?
>
Not yet.
--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-05 13:14 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V5 Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 13:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 14:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 14:56 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 15:54 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-05-05 16:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-05 19:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-05 19:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-21 0:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-06 10:37 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 17:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 17:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 18:14 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 11:03 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 13:40 ` Rik van Riel
2010-05-06 13:45 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 17:53 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 18:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 18:17 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 0:22 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 0:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 10:02 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 14:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 14:25 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 9:47 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 10:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06 10:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 14:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 15:59 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06 7:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-06 9:46 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07 5:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-05 13:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,migration: Fix race between shift_arg_pages and rmap_walk by guaranteeing rmap_walk finds PTEs created within the temporary stack Mel Gorman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-06 15:33 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V6 Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:44 ` Rik van Riel
2010-05-06 15:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 17:07 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:20 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V7 Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-07 0:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07 16:26 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-08 15:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-08 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-08 18:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-08 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-09 19:23 ` Mel Gorman
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