From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com,
gregory.haskins@gmail.com, s.hetze@linux-ag.com,
Daniel Walker <dwalker@fifo99.com>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: virtio: put last_used and last_avail index into ring itself.
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 09:27:55 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100506062755.GC8363@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201005061022.13815.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:22:12AM +0930, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 5 May 2010 03:52:36 am Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > virtio: put last_used and last_avail index into ring itself.
> > >
> > > Generally, the other end of the virtio ring doesn't need to see where
> > > you're up to in consuming the ring. However, to completely understand
> > > what's going on from the outside, this information must be exposed.
> > > For example, if you want to save and restore a virtio_ring, but you're
> > > not the consumer because the kernel is using it directly.
> > >
> > > Fortunately, we have room to expand: the ring is always a whole number
> > > of pages and there's hundreds of bytes of padding after the avail ring
> > > and the used ring, whatever the number of descriptors (which must be a
> > > power of 2).
> > >
> > > We add a feature bit so the guest can tell the host that it's writing
> > > out the current value there, if it wants to use that.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
> >
> > I've been looking at this patch some more (more on why
> > later), and I wonder: would it be better to add some
> > alignment to the last used index address, so that
> > if we later add more stuff at the tail, it all
> > fits in a single cache line?
>
> In theory, but not in practice. We don't have many rings, so the
> difference between 1 and 2 cache lines is not very much.
Fair enough.
> > We use a new feature bit anyway, so layout change should not be
> > a problem.
> >
> > Since I raised the question of caches: for used ring,
> > the ring is not aligned to 64 bit, so on CPUs with 64 bit
> > or larger cache lines, used entries will often cross
> > cache line boundaries. Am I right and might it
> > have been better to align ring entries to cache line boundaries?
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think everyone is settled on 128 byte cache lines for the forseeable
> future, so it's not really an issue.
>
> Cheers,
> Rusty.
You mean with 64 bit descriptors we will be bouncing a cache line
between host and guest, anyway?
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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <cover.1257349249.git.mst@redhat.com>
2009-11-04 15:55 ` [PATCHv8 1/3] tun: export underlying socket Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 15:55 ` [PATCHv8 2/3] mm: export use_mm/unuse_mm to modules Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 15:57 ` [PATCHv8 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-06 4:59 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-08 11:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-09 6:17 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-09 7:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-10 1:08 ` Rusty Russell
2009-11-09 7:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-09 11:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-04 18:22 ` virtio: put last_used and last_avail index into ring itself Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-06 0:52 ` Rusty Russell
2010-05-06 6:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2010-05-07 3:05 ` Rusty Russell
2010-05-09 8:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-10 3:11 ` Rusty Russell
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