From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
linux-mm@kvack.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:37:54 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100527143754.GR22536@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1005270919510.5762@router.home>
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 09:24:28AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2010, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
> > > > > The reason that the alien caches made it into SLAB were performance
> > > > > numbers that showed that the design "must" be this way. I prefer a clear
> > > > > maintainable design over some numbers (that invariably show the bias of
> > > > > the tester for certain loads).
> > > >
> > > > I don't really agree. There are a number of other possible ways to
> > > > improve it, including fewer remote freeing queues.
> > >
> > > You disagree with the history of the allocator?
> >
> > I don't agree with you saying that it "must" be that way. There are
> > other ways to improve things there.
>
> People told me that it "must" be this way. Could not convince them
> otherwise at the time.
So again there was no numbers just handwaving?
> I never wanted it to be that way and have been
> looking for other ways ever since. SLUB is a result of trying something
> different.
>
> > then we can go ahead and throw out SLUB and make incremental
> > improvements from there instead.
>
> I am just amazed at the tosses and turns by you. Didnt you write SLQB on
> the basis of SLUB? And then it was abandoned? If you really believe ths
Sure I hoped it would be able to conclusively beat SLAB, and I'd
thought it might be a good idea. I stopped pushing it because I
realized that incremental improvements to SLAB would likely be a
far better idea.
> and want to get this done then please invest some time in SLAB to get it
> cleaned up. I have some doubt that you are aware of the difficulties that
> you will encounter.
I am working on it. We'll see.
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-21 21:14 [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 01/14] slab: Introduce a constant for a unspecified node Christoph Lameter
2010-06-07 21:44 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-07 22:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-06-08 5:41 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-08 6:20 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 6:34 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-08 23:35 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 5:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-09 6:20 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 02/14] SLUB: Constants need UL Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 03/14] SLUB: Use kmem_cache flags to detect if Slab is in debugging mode Christoph Lameter
2010-06-08 3:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 04/14] SLUB: discard_slab_unlock Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 05/14] SLUB: is_kmalloc_cache Christoph Lameter
2010-06-08 8:54 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 06/14] SLUB: Get rid of the kmalloc_node slab Christoph Lameter
2010-06-09 6:14 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 16:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-06-09 16:26 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-06-10 6:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-21 21:14 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 07/14] SLEB: The Enhanced Slab Allocator Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 08/14] SLEB: Resize cpu queue Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 09/14] SLED: Get rid of useless function Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 10/14] SLEB: Remove MAX_OBJS limitation Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 11/14] SLEB: Add per node cache (with a fixed size for now) Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 12/14] SLEB: Make the size of the shared cache configurable Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 13/14] SLEB: Enhanced NUMA support Christoph Lameter
2010-05-21 21:15 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 14/14] SLEB: Allocate off node objects from remote shared caches Christoph Lameter
2010-05-22 8:37 ` [RFC V2 SLEB 00/14] The Enhanced(hopefully) Slab Allocator Pekka Enberg
2010-05-24 7:03 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-24 15:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 2:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 6:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 7:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 8:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 8:16 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 9:34 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 9:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 10:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 10:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 11:06 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 15:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-25 15:43 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 17:02 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 17:19 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 17:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 17:40 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 10:07 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-25 10:02 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-25 10:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-05-25 19:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-25 14:13 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 14:34 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 14:43 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 15:11 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 15:28 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 15:37 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 14:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-27 14:37 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-05-27 15:52 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-27 16:07 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-27 16:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-28 8:39 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 14:40 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-25 14:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-05-25 15:12 ` Nick Piggin
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