From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
williams@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] oom-kill: give the dying task a higher priority
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 23:06:23 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100528140623.GA11041@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100528125305.GE11364@uudg.org>
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 09:53:05AM -0300, Luis Claudio R. Goncalves wrote:
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 02:59:02PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> | > RT Task
> | >
> | > void non-RT-function()
> | > {
> | > system call();
> | > buffer = malloc();
> | > memset(buffer);
> | > }
> | > /*
> | > * We make sure this function must be executed in some millisecond
> | > */
> | > void RT-function()
> | > {
> | > some calculation(); <- This doesn't have no dynamic characteristic
> | > }
> | > int main()
> | > {
> | > non-RT-function();
> | > /* This function make sure RT-function cannot preempt by others */
> | > set_RT_max_high_priority();
> | > RT-function A();
> | > set_normal_priority();
> | > non-RT-function();
> | > }
> | >
> | > We don't want realtime in whole function of the task. What we want is
> | > just RT-function A.
> | > Of course, current Linux cannot make perfectly sure RT-functionA can
> | > not preempt by others.
> | > That's because some interrupt or exception happen. But RT-function A
> | > doesn't related to any dynamic characteristic. What can justify to
> | > preempt RT-function A by other processes?
> |
> | As far as my observation, RT-function always have some syscall. because pure
> | calculation doesn't need deterministic guarantee. But _if_ you are really
> | using such priority design. I'm ok maximum NonRT priority instead maximum
> | RT priority too.
>
> I confess I failed to distinguish memcg OOM and system OOM and used "in
> case of OOM kill the selected task the faster you can" as the guideline.
> If the exit code path is short that shouldn't be a problem.
>
> Maybe the right way to go would be giving the dying task the biggest
> priority inside that memcg to be sure that it will be the next process from
> that memcg to be scheduled. Would that be reasonable?
Hmm. I can't understand your point.
What do you mean failing distinguish memcg and system OOM?
We already have been distinguish it by mem_cgroup_out_of_memory.
(but we have to enable CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR).
So task selected in select_bad_process is one out of memcg's tasks when
memcg have a memory pressure.
Isn't it enough?
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Minchan Kim
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-28 14:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-27 18:04 [RFC] oom-kill: give the dying task a higher priority Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-27 18:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-28 2:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28 3:51 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 4:33 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28 4:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28 5:30 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 5:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28 5:50 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 5:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28 7:52 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 12:53 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 14:06 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-05-28 14:20 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28 15:03 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 14:36 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 15:12 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 15:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-28 15:35 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 15:28 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 15:45 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 16:48 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-29 3:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31 2:15 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-31 5:06 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 6:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31 7:05 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 7:25 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31 9:30 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-30 15:09 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 0:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31 5:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 5:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31 5:46 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 5:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31 6:09 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 6:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31 10:33 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 13:52 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-31 23:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-01 17:35 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-06-01 20:49 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 14:20 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-06-02 21:11 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 23:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-03 0:52 ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-03 7:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-03 20:32 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 8:19 ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-01 18:36 ` David Rientjes
2010-05-28 6:27 ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28 6:34 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-28 6:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28 15:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
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