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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm 08/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:04:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100603170443.011fdf7c.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100604085347.80c7b43f.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 08:53:47 +0900
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:10:30 -0700
> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed,  2 Jun 2010 22:54:03 +0900 (JST)
> > KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Why?
> > > > 
> > > > If it's because the patch is too big, I've explained a few times that 
> > > > functionally you can't break it apart into anything meaningful.  I do not 
> > > > believe it is better to break functional changes into smaller patches that 
> > > > simply change function signatures to pass additional arguments that are 
> > > > unused in the first patch, for example.
> > > > 
> > > > If it's because it adds /proc/pid/oom_score_adj in the same patch, that's 
> > > > allowed since otherwise it would be useless with the old heuristic.  In 
> > > > other words, you cannot apply oom_score_adj's meaning to the bitshift in 
> > > > any sane way.
> > > > 
> > > > I'll suggest what I have multiple times: the easiest way to review the 
> > > > functional change here is to merge the patch into your own tree and then 
> > > > review oom_badness().  I agree that the way the diff comes out it is a 
> > > > little difficult to read just from the patch form, so merging it and 
> > > > reviewing the actual heuristic function is the easiest way.
> > > 
> > > I've already explained the reason. 1) all-of-rewrite patches are 
> > > always unacceptable. that's prevent our code maintainance.
> > 
> > No, we'll sometime completely replace implementations.  There's no hard
> > rule apart from "whatever makes sense".  If wholesale replacement makes
> > sense as a patch-presentation method then we'll do that.
> > 
> I agree. 
> 
> IMHO.
> 
> But this series includes both of bug fixes and new features at random.
> Then, a small bugfixes, which doens't require refactoring, seems to do that.
> That's irritating guys (at least me) because it seems that he tries to sneak
> his own new logic into bugfix and moreover, it makes backport to distro difficult.
> I'd like to beg him separate them into 2 series as bugfix and something new.
> 

Sure, bugfixes should come separately and first.  For a number of
reasons:

- people (including the -stable maintainers) might want to backport them

- we might end up not merging the larger, bugfix-including patches at all

- the large bugfix-including patches might blow up and need
  reverting.  If we do that, we accidentally revert bugfixes!

Have we identified specifically which bugfixes should be separated out
in this fashion?

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-04  0:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-01  7:18 [patch -mm 00/18] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 01/18] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:20   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:37     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17  3:33         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-21 11:45           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:43     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:25       ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 23:54         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09  0:06           ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09  1:07             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 02/18] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:39   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:41     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-14  8:54         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-14 11:08           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:45     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 03/18] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:39   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:28     ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 04/18] oom: extract panic helper function David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:33   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 05/18] oom: remove special handling for pagefault ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:34   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 06/18] oom: move sysctl declarations to oom.h David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:34   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 07/18] oom: enable oom tasklist dump by default David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:36   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 08/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:36   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:44     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:20         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 23:10         ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-03 23:53           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04  0:04             ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-06-04  0:20               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04  5:57                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04  9:22                   ` David Rientjes
2010-06-04  9:19             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-04  9:43             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-04 10:54           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-04 20:57             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:47                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-17  3:28                   ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:46   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 18:56     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:23         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03  0:05           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-03  6:44             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03  3:07           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-03  6:48             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 23:15             ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-04 10:54               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 09/18] oom: add forkbomb penalty to badness heuristic David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:57     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 20:33       ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 10/18] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 11/18] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:38   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:38     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:18 ` [patch -mm 12/18] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:40   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:58     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 13/18] oom: avoid race for oom killed tasks detaching mm prior to exit David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:40   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:59     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 20:43       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-01 21:19         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02  0:28         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-02  9:49           ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 10:46             ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-02 21:35               ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 14/18] oom: check PF_KTHREAD instead of !mm to skip kthreads David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 15/18] oom: introduce find_lock_task_mm() to fix !mm false positives David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:41   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 16/18] oom: give current access to memory reserves if it has been killed David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:44   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 17/18] oom: avoid sending exiting tasks a SIGKILL David Rientjes
2010-06-01  7:19 ` [patch -mm 18/18] oom: clean up oom_kill_task() David Rientjes

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