From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm 08/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:04:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100603170443.011fdf7c.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100604085347.80c7b43f.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 08:53:47 +0900
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:10:30 -0700
> Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:54:03 +0900 (JST)
> > KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Why?
> > > >
> > > > If it's because the patch is too big, I've explained a few times that
> > > > functionally you can't break it apart into anything meaningful. I do not
> > > > believe it is better to break functional changes into smaller patches that
> > > > simply change function signatures to pass additional arguments that are
> > > > unused in the first patch, for example.
> > > >
> > > > If it's because it adds /proc/pid/oom_score_adj in the same patch, that's
> > > > allowed since otherwise it would be useless with the old heuristic. In
> > > > other words, you cannot apply oom_score_adj's meaning to the bitshift in
> > > > any sane way.
> > > >
> > > > I'll suggest what I have multiple times: the easiest way to review the
> > > > functional change here is to merge the patch into your own tree and then
> > > > review oom_badness(). I agree that the way the diff comes out it is a
> > > > little difficult to read just from the patch form, so merging it and
> > > > reviewing the actual heuristic function is the easiest way.
> > >
> > > I've already explained the reason. 1) all-of-rewrite patches are
> > > always unacceptable. that's prevent our code maintainance.
> >
> > No, we'll sometime completely replace implementations. There's no hard
> > rule apart from "whatever makes sense". If wholesale replacement makes
> > sense as a patch-presentation method then we'll do that.
> >
> I agree.
>
> IMHO.
>
> But this series includes both of bug fixes and new features at random.
> Then, a small bugfixes, which doens't require refactoring, seems to do that.
> That's irritating guys (at least me) because it seems that he tries to sneak
> his own new logic into bugfix and moreover, it makes backport to distro difficult.
> I'd like to beg him separate them into 2 series as bugfix and something new.
>
Sure, bugfixes should come separately and first. For a number of
reasons:
- people (including the -stable maintainers) might want to backport them
- we might end up not merging the larger, bugfix-including patches at all
- the large bugfix-including patches might blow up and need
reverting. If we do that, we accidentally revert bugfixes!
Have we identified specifically which bugfixes should be separated out
in this fashion?
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Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-01 7:18 [patch -mm 00/18] oom killer rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 01/18] oom: filter tasks not sharing the same cpuset David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:37 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-17 3:33 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-21 11:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-21 11:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:43 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 23:25 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 23:54 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-09 1:07 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 02/18] oom: sacrifice child with highest badness score for parent David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:41 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-13 11:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-14 8:54 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-14 11:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:45 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 03/18] oom: select task from tasklist for mempolicy ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 04/18] oom: extract panic helper function David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 05/18] oom: remove special handling for pagefault ooms David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 06/18] oom: move sysctl declarations to oom.h David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 07/18] oom: enable oom tasklist dump by default David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 08/18] oom: badness heuristic rewrite David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:36 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:44 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:20 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 23:10 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-03 23:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04 0:04 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-06-04 0:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04 5:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-04 9:22 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-04 9:19 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-04 9:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-04 10:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-04 20:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 23:47 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-17 3:28 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:46 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 18:56 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:23 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-03 6:44 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 3:07 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-03 6:48 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 23:15 ` Andrew Morton
2010-06-04 10:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 09/18] oom: add forkbomb penalty to badness heuristic David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:57 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 20:33 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 10/18] oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 11/18] oom: avoid oom killer for lowmem allocations David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:38 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 11:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-08 18:38 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:18 ` [patch -mm 12/18] oom: remove unnecessary code and cleanup David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:58 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 13/18] oom: avoid race for oom killed tasks detaching mm prior to exit David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 18:59 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 20:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-01 21:19 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 0:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-02 9:49 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 10:46 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-02 21:35 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 14/18] oom: check PF_KTHREAD instead of !mm to skip kthreads David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 15/18] oom: introduce find_lock_task_mm() to fix !mm false positives David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:41 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 16/18] oom: give current access to memory reserves if it has been killed David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 17/18] oom: avoid sending exiting tasks a SIGKILL David Rientjes
2010-06-01 7:19 ` [patch -mm 18/18] oom: clean up oom_kill_task() David Rientjes
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