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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: uninterruptible CLONE_VFORK (Was: oom: Make coredump interruptible)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:33:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100628173306.GA20039@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100614191710.18C0E403B2@magilla.sf.frob.com>

On 06/14, Roland McGrath wrote:
>
> > Hmm. Even without debugger, the parent doesn't react to SIGSTOP.
>
> Yes.  It's been a long time since I thought about the vfork stuff much.
> But I now recall thinking about the SIGSTOP/SIGTSTP issue too.  It does
> seem bad.  OTOH, it has lurked there for many years now without complaints.
>
> Note that supporting stop/fatal signals in the normal way means that the
> call has to return and pass the syscall-exit tracing point first.  This
> means a change in the order of events seen by a debugger.  It also
> complicates the subject of PTRACE_EVENT_VFORK_DONE reports, which today
> happen before syscall-exit or signal stuff is possible.  For proper
> stopping in the normal way, the vfork-wait would be restarted via
> sys_restart_syscall or something.

Yes. I was thinking about this too.

The parent can play with real_blocked or saved_sigmask to block all
signals except STOP and KILL, use TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE for wait, and
just return ERESTART each time it gets the signal (it should clear
child->vfork_done if fatal_signal_pending).

We should also check PF_KTHREAD though, there are in kernel users
of CLONE_VFORK.

> Bu the way that happens ordinarily is
> to get all the way back to user mode and reenter with a normal syscall.
> That doesn't touch the user stack itself, but it sure makes one nervous.

me too. Especially because I do not really know how !x86 machines
implement this all.

We should also verify that the exiting/stopping parent can never write
to its ->mm. For example, exit_mm() does put_user(tsk->clear_child_tid).
Fortunately we can rely on PF_SIGNALED flag in this case.

Oleg.

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-28 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-31  9:33 [PATCH 1/5] oom: select_bad_process: check PF_KTHREAD instead of !mm to skip kthreads KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31  9:35 ` [PATCH 2/5] oom: select_bad_process: PF_EXITING check should take ->mm into account KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31 16:43   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-01  1:10     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01 20:18       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 13:54         ` [PATCH] oom: remove PF_EXITING check completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 15:54           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 21:02             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03  4:48               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-03  6:29                 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54         ` [PATCH] oom: Make coredump interruptible KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 15:42           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 17:29             ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-02 17:53               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 18:58                 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-02 20:38                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-03 14:03                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-04 10:54                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-04 11:27                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-04 11:34                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-09 19:53                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-09 20:41                           ` David Rientjes
2010-06-09 21:03                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-13 11:24                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-13 15:53                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-13 17:13                               ` uninterruptible CLONE_VFORK (Was: oom: Make coredump interruptible) Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-14  0:56                                 ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-14 16:33                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-14 19:17                                     ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-28 17:33                                       ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2010-06-28 18:04                                         ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-14  0:36                               ` [PATCH] oom: Make coredump interruptible Roland McGrath
2010-06-14  0:26                     ` Roland McGrath
2010-06-01 20:39   ` [PATCH 2/5] oom: select_bad_process: PF_EXITING check should take ->mm into account David Rientjes
2010-05-31  9:36 ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: introduce find_lock_task_mm() to fix !mm false positives KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  0:57   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-01 20:42   ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 16:05   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  9:37 ` [PATCH 4/5] oom: the points calculation of child processes must use find_lock_task_mm() too KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31 16:56   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-31 23:48     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31  9:38 ` [PATCH 5/5] oom: __oom_kill_task() " KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-01  1:02   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-01 20:44   ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  0:54 ` [PATCH 1/5] oom: select_bad_process: check PF_KTHREAD instead of !mm to skip kthreads KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-01 20:36 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01 21:20   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-01 21:26     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 21:09         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 21:33           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-02 21:46             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-03 14:27               ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-06-03 20:11                 ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 15:32 ` Minchan Kim

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