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From: Zach Pfeffer <zpfeffer@codeaurora.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	ebiederm@xmission.com, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	dwalker@codeaurora.org, mel@csn.ul.ie,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, andi@firstfloor.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3 v3] mm: iommu: An API to unify IOMMU, CPU and device memory management
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:52:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100719065233.GD11054@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100715085535.GC26212@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 09:55:35AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 06:29:58PM -0700, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
> > The VCM ensures that all mappings that map a given physical buffer:
> > IOMMU mappings, CPU mappings and one-to-one device mappings all map
> > that buffer using the same (or compatible) attributes. At this point
> > the only attribute that users can pass is CACHED. In the absence of
> > CACHED all accesses go straight through to the physical memory.
> 
> So what you're saying is that if I have a buffer in kernel space
> which I already have its virtual address, I can pass this to VCM and
> tell it !CACHED, and it'll setup another mapping which is not cached
> for me?

Not quite. The existing mapping will be represented by a reservation
from the prebuilt VCM of the VM. This reservation has been marked
non-cached. Another reservation on a IOMMU VCM, also marked non-cached
will be backed with the same physical memory. This is legal in ARM,
allowing the vcm_back call to succeed. If you instead passed cached on
the second mapping, the first mapping would be non-cached and the
second would be cached. If the underlying architecture supported this
than the vcm_back would go through.

> 
> You are aware that multiple V:P mappings for the same physical page
> with different attributes are being outlawed with ARMv6 and ARMv7
> due to speculative prefetching.  The cache can be searched even for
> a mapping specified as 'normal, uncached' and you can get cache hits
> because the data has been speculatively loaded through a separate
> cached mapping of the same physical page.

I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up.

> FYI, during the next merge window, I will be pushing a patch which makes
> ioremap() of system RAM fail, which should be the last core code creator
> of mappings with different memory types.  This behaviour has been outlawed
> (as unpredictable) in the architecture specification and does cause
> problems on some CPUs.

That's fair enough, but it seems like it should only be outlawed for
those processors on which it breaks.

> 
> We've also the issue of multiple mappings with differing cache attributes
> which needs addressing too...

The VCM has been architected to handle these things.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-03  5:38 [RFC 1/3 v3] mm: iommu: An API to unify IOMMU, CPU and device memory management Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-03 19:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-07 22:44   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-07 23:07     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-08 23:59       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-12  1:25         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  5:57           ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  6:03             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13 12:14               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-14  1:59                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-14 20:11                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-14 22:05                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-15  1:29                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-15  1:47                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-15  5:40                           ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-15  5:35                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-15  8:55                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-16  0:48                           ` Tim HRM
2010-07-16  7:58                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-17  0:01                               ` Larry Bassel
2010-07-19  9:21                                 ` Tim HRM
2010-07-21  0:44                                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-21  1:44                                     ` Timothy Meade
2010-07-22  4:06                                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-19 17:55                               ` Michael Bohan
2010-07-19 18:40                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-20 22:02                                   ` stepanm
2010-07-20 22:29                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-21  5:49                                       ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-07-21  7:28                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-21  7:45                                           ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2010-07-21 18:04                                           ` stepanm
2010-07-20 20:45                               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-20 20:54                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-20 21:56                                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-19  6:52                           ` Zach Pfeffer [this message]
2010-07-19  7:44                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-07-22  4:25                               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22  7:34                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 16:25                                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-14 23:07                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-15  1:41                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-19  8:22                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-20 10:09                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-20 22:20                           ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-21  1:44                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-22  4:30                               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22  4:43                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-22 16:44                                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22  7:39                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 16:28                                   ` Zach Pfeffer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-06 15:42 Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-21  5:18 stepanm

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