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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] writeback: explicit low bound for vm.dirty_ratio
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 20:44:52 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100806124452.GC4717@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100805163401.e9754032.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 07:34:01AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 00:10:58 +0800
> Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > Force a user visible low bound of 5% for the vm.dirty_ratio interface.
> > 
> > Currently global_dirty_limits() applies a low bound of 5% for
> > vm_dirty_ratio.  This is not very user visible -- if the user sets
> > vm.dirty_ratio=1, the operation seems to succeed but will be rounded up
> > to 5% when used.
> > 
> > Another problem is inconsistency: calc_period_shift() uses the plain
> > vm_dirty_ratio value, which may be a problem when vm.dirty_ratio is set
> > to < 5 by the user.
> 
> The changelog describes the old behaviour but doesn't describe the
> proposed new behaviour.

Yeah, fixed below.

> > --- linux-next.orig/kernel/sysctl.c	2010-08-05 22:48:34.000000000 +0800
> > +++ linux-next/kernel/sysctl.c	2010-08-05 22:48:47.000000000 +0800
> > @@ -126,6 +126,7 @@ static int ten_thousand = 10000;
> >  
> >  /* this is needed for the proc_doulongvec_minmax of vm_dirty_bytes */
> >  static unsigned long dirty_bytes_min = 2 * PAGE_SIZE;
> > +static int dirty_ratio_min = 5;
> >  
> >  /* this is needed for the proc_dointvec_minmax for [fs_]overflow UID and GID */
> >  static int maxolduid = 65535;
> > @@ -1031,7 +1032,7 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
> >  		.maxlen		= sizeof(vm_dirty_ratio),
> >  		.mode		= 0644,
> >  		.proc_handler	= dirty_ratio_handler,
> > -		.extra1		= &zero,
> > +		.extra1		= &dirty_ratio_min,
> >  		.extra2		= &one_hundred,
> >  	},
> 
> I forget how the procfs core handles this.  Presumably the write will
> now fail with -EINVAL or something?

Right.
         # echo 111 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_ratio
         echo: write error: invalid argument

> So people's scripts will now error out and their space shuttles will
> crash?

Looks like a serious problem. I'm now much more reserved on pushing
this patch :)

> All of which illustrates why it's important to fully describe changes
> in the changelog!  So people can consider and discuss the end-user
> implications of a change.

Good point. Here is the patch with updated changelog.

Thanks,
Fengguang
---
Subject: writeback: explicit low bound for vm.dirty_ratio
From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Date: Thu Jul 15 10:28:57 CST 2010

Force a user visible low bound of 5% for the vm.dirty_ratio interface.

This is an interface change. When doing

	echo N > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_ratio

where N < 5, the old behavior is pretend to accept the value, while
the new behavior is to reject it explicitly with -EINVAL.  This will
possibly break user space if they checks the return value.

Currently global_dirty_limits() applies a low bound of 5% for
vm_dirty_ratio.  This is not very user visible -- if the user sets
vm.dirty_ratio=1, the operation seems to succeed but will be rounded up
to 5% when used.

Another problem is inconsistency: calc_period_shift() uses the plain
vm_dirty_ratio value, which may be a problem when vm.dirty_ratio is set
to < 5 by the user.

CC: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
---
 kernel/sysctl.c     |    3 ++-
 mm/page-writeback.c |   10 ++--------
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

--- linux-next.orig/kernel/sysctl.c	2010-08-05 22:48:34.000000000 +0800
+++ linux-next/kernel/sysctl.c	2010-08-05 22:48:47.000000000 +0800
@@ -126,6 +126,7 @@ static int ten_thousand = 10000;
 
 /* this is needed for the proc_doulongvec_minmax of vm_dirty_bytes */
 static unsigned long dirty_bytes_min = 2 * PAGE_SIZE;
+static int dirty_ratio_min = 5;
 
 /* this is needed for the proc_dointvec_minmax for [fs_]overflow UID and GID */
 static int maxolduid = 65535;
@@ -1031,7 +1032,7 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
 		.maxlen		= sizeof(vm_dirty_ratio),
 		.mode		= 0644,
 		.proc_handler	= dirty_ratio_handler,
-		.extra1		= &zero,
+		.extra1		= &dirty_ratio_min,
 		.extra2		= &one_hundred,
 	},
 	{
--- linux-next.orig/mm/page-writeback.c	2010-08-05 22:48:42.000000000 +0800
+++ linux-next/mm/page-writeback.c	2010-08-05 22:48:47.000000000 +0800
@@ -415,14 +415,8 @@ void global_dirty_limits(unsigned long *
 
 	if (vm_dirty_bytes)
 		dirty = DIV_ROUND_UP(vm_dirty_bytes, PAGE_SIZE);
-	else {
-		int dirty_ratio;
-
-		dirty_ratio = vm_dirty_ratio;
-		if (dirty_ratio < 5)
-			dirty_ratio = 5;
-		dirty = (dirty_ratio * available_memory) / 100;
-	}
+	else
+		dirty = (vm_dirty_ratio * available_memory) / 100;
 
 	if (dirty_background_bytes)
 		background = DIV_ROUND_UP(dirty_background_bytes, PAGE_SIZE);

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-07 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-05 16:10 [PATCH 00/13] writeback patches for 2.6.36 Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 01/13] writeback: reduce calls to global_page_state in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 02/13] writeback: avoid unnecessary calculation of bdi dirty thresholds Wu Fengguang
2010-08-06 10:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 03/13] writeback: add comment to the dirty limits functions Wu Fengguang
2010-08-06 10:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-07 16:47     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 04/13] writeback: dont redirty tail an inode with dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 05/13] writeback: fix queue_io() ordering Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 06/13] writeback: merge for_kupdate and !for_kupdate cases Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 07/13] writeback: explicit low bound for vm.dirty_ratio Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-06 12:44     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-08-10  3:12       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-10  3:57         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-10 13:29           ` Jan Kara
2010-08-10 18:12           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-10 18:06         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 08/13] writeback: pass writeback_control down to move_expired_inodes() Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 09/13] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 10/13] writeback: kill writeback_control.more_io Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 11/13] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 12/13] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 17:00   ` Jan Kara
2010-08-05 22:39     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 22:50       ` Jan Kara
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 13/13] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_written Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 23:08 ` [PATCH 00/13] writeback patches for 2.6.36 Andrew Morton

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