From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:05:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100817110521.GC3151@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100817101655.GN19797@csn.ul.ie>
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:16:55AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 06:06:23PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:43:50AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > diff --git a/mm/vmstat.c b/mm/vmstat.c
> > > index 7759941..c95a159 100644
> > > --- a/mm/vmstat.c
> > > +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
> > > @@ -143,6 +143,9 @@ static void refresh_zone_stat_thresholds(void)
> > > for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
> > > per_cpu_ptr(zone->pageset, cpu)->stat_threshold
> > > = threshold;
> > > +
> > > + zone->percpu_drift_mark = high_wmark_pages(zone) +
> > > + num_online_cpus() * threshold;
> > > }
> > > }
> >
> > Hm, this one I don't quite get (might be the jetlag, though): we have
> > _at least_ NR_FREE_PAGES free pages, there may just be more lurking in
> > the pcp counters.
> >
>
> Well, the drift can be either direction because drift can be due to pages
> being either freed or allocated. e.g. it could be something like
>
> NR_FREE_PAGES CPU 0 CPU 1 Actual Free
> 128 -32 +64 160
>
> Because CPU 0 was allocating pages while CPU 1 was freeing them but that
> is not what is important here. At any given time, the NR_FREE_PAGES can be
> wrong by as much as
>
> num_online_cpus * (threshold - 1)
I somehow assumed the pcp cache could only be positive, but the
vm_stat_diff can indeed hold negative values.
> > So shouldn't we only collect the pcp deltas in case the high watermark
> > is breached? Above this point, we should be fine or better, no?
> >
>
> Is that not what is happening in zone_nr_free_pages with this check?
>
> /*
> * While kswapd is awake, it is considered the zone is under some
> * memory pressure. Under pressure, there is a risk that
> * per-cpu-counter-drift will allow the min watermark to be breached
> * potentially causing a live-lock. While kswapd is awake and
> * free pages are low, get a better estimate for free pages
> */
> if (nr_free_pages < zone->percpu_drift_mark &&
> !waitqueue_active(&zone->zone_pgdat->kswapd_wait)) {
>
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding your question.
This was just a conclusion based on my wrong assumption: if the pcp
diff could only be positive, it would be enough to go for accurate
counts at the point NR_FREE_PAGES breaches the watermark.
As it is, however, the error margin needs to be taken into account in
both directions, as you said, so your patch makes perfect sense.
Sorry for the noise! And
Acked-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-16 9:42 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: page allocator: Update free page counters after pages are placed on the free list Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:04 ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 15:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 2:21 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 9:59 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 14:25 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 2:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-16 9:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:43 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:47 ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 16:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 2:26 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 10:42 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 15:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 15:05 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 10:16 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 11:05 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2010-08-17 14:20 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-18 14:57 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 8:06 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 10:33 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 10:38 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 14:09 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:34 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:07 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:22 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:40 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:44 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:46 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 16:06 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 16:45 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 2:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-18 15:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19 0:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 19:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19 23:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-20 0:22 ` [PATCH] vmstat : update zone stat threshold at onlining a cpu KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-20 14:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-20 17:29 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-23 7:18 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:50 ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-17 2:57 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 3:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 14:47 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:10 ` Mel Gorman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-23 8:00 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V2 Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 8:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 12:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:03 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 13:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:55 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 16:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 16:13 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V3 Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-31 23:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 7:24 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-01 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 20:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-01 20:34 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-02 0:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02 0:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:49 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 9:08 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V4 Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 9:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 22:55 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-03 23:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-03 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-05 18:12 ` Mel Gorman
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