From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 23:20:40 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100817142040.GA3884@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100817101655.GN19797@csn.ul.ie>
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:16:55AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Well, the drift can be either direction because drift can be due to pages
> being either freed or allocated. e.g. it could be something like
>
> NR_FREE_PAGES CPU 0 CPU 1 Actual Free
> 128 -32 +64 160
>
> Because CPU 0 was allocating pages while CPU 1 was freeing them but that
> is not what is important here. At any given time, the NR_FREE_PAGES can be
> wrong by as much as
>
> num_online_cpus * (threshold - 1)
That's the answer I expected.
As I mentioned previous mail, we need to consider allocation path.
But you already have been considered it by partially in here.
Yes. It looks good to me. :)
Reviewed-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
>
> As kswapd goes back to sleep when the high watermark is reached, it's important
> that it has actually reached the watermark before sleeping. Similarly,
> if an allocator is checking the low watermark, it needs an accurate count.
> Hence a more careful accounting for NR_FREE_PAGES should happen when the
> number of free pages is within
>
> high_watermark + (num_online_cpus * (threshold - 1))
>
> Only checking when kswapd is awake still leaves a window between the low
> and min watermark when we could breach the watermark but I'm expecting it
> can only happen for at worst one allocation. After that, kswapd wakes
> and the count becomes accurate again.
I can't understand the point.
Now kswapd starts from below low wmark and stops until high wmark.
So if VM has pages of below low wmark, it could always check by zone_nr_free_pages
regardless of min.
What's a window low and min wmark? Maybe I can miss your point.
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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-17 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-16 9:42 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: page allocator: Update free page counters after pages are placed on the free list Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:04 ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 15:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 2:21 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 9:59 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 14:25 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 2:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-16 9:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:43 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:47 ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 16:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 2:26 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 10:42 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 15:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 15:05 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 10:16 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 11:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 14:20 ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-08-18 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-18 14:57 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 8:06 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 10:33 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 10:38 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 14:09 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:34 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:07 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:22 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:40 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:44 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:46 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 16:06 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 16:45 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 2:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-18 15:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19 0:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 19:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19 23:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-20 0:22 ` [PATCH] vmstat : update zone stat threshold at onlining a cpu KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-20 14:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-20 17:29 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-23 7:18 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:50 ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-17 2:57 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 3:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 14:47 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:10 ` Mel Gorman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-23 8:00 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V2 Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 8:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 12:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:03 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 13:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:55 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 16:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 16:13 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V3 Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-31 23:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 7:24 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-01 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 20:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-01 20:34 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-02 0:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02 0:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:49 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 9:08 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V4 Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 9:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 22:55 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-03 23:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-03 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-05 18:12 ` Mel Gorman
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