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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Iram Shahzad <iram.shahzad@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: compaction: trying to understand the code
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:27:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100824002753.GB6568@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100823171416.GA2216@barrios-desktop>

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 01:14:16AM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 07:23:16AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:20:44 +0900
> > > Subject: [PATCH] compaction: handle active and inactive fairly in too_many_isolated
> > > 
> > > Iram reported compaction's too_many_isolated loops forever.
> > > (http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mm/msg08123.html)
> > > 
> > > The meminfo of situation happened was inactive anon is zero.
> > > That's because the system has no memory pressure until then.
> > > While all anon pages was in active lru, compaction could select
> > > active lru as well as inactive lru. That's different things
> > > with vmscan's isolated. So we has been two too_many_isolated.
> > > 
> > > While compaction can isolated pages in both active and inactive,
> > > current implementation of too_many_isolated only considers inactive.
> > > It made Iram's problem.
> > > 
> > > This patch handles active and inactie with fair.
> > > That's because we can't expect where from and how many compaction would
> > > isolated pages.
> > > 
> > > This patch changes (nr_isolated > nr_inactive) with
> > > nr_isolated > (nr_active + nr_inactive) / 2.
> > 
> > The change looks good, thanks. However I'm not sure if it's enough.
> > 
> > I wonder where the >40MB isolated pages come about.  inactive_anon
> > remains 0 and free remains high over a long time, so it seems there
> > are no concurrent direct reclaims at all. Are the pages isolated by
> > the compaction process itself?
> 
> I think it can't happen without kswapd or direct reclaim.
> But I think direct reclaim doesn't happen becuase Iram has no activity on system 
> at that time. So just geussing following scenario.
> 
> 1. trigger compaction by proc
> 2. isolate some pages and then migrate_pages
> 3. migrate_pages calls cond_resched
> 4. someone need big page(I am not sure this part)
> 4. kswapd: shrink anon active list due to inactive_anon_is_low
> 5. kswapd: isolate_lru_pages for order > 0 (ex, 0.5M page) so 0.5 M * 32 = 16M are isolated
> 6. kswapd: shrink_zone : shrink anon active list due to inactive_anon_is_low 
> 7. kswapd: isolate_lru_pages for order > 0 (ex, 0.5M page) so 0.5 M * 32  are isolated again.
> 
> Does it make sense?

One question is, why kswapd won't proceed after isolating all the pages?
If it has done with the isolated pages, we'll see growing inactive_anon
numbers.

/proc/vmstat should give more clues on any possible page reclaim
activities. Iram, would you help post it?

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-24  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-17 11:08 compaction: trying to understand the code Iram Shahzad
2010-08-17 11:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-18  8:19   ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-18 15:41     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19  7:09       ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-19  7:45         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19  7:46         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19  8:08           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19  8:15             ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19  8:29               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  5:45           ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-20  5:50             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  6:13               ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-19 16:00         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-20  5:31           ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-20  5:34             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  9:35               ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-20 10:22                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-22 15:31                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-22 23:23                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-23  1:58                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-23  3:03                         ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-23  9:10                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26  8:51                             ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23  7:18                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 17:14                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-24  0:27                         ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-08-24  5:07                           ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-24  6:52                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26  8:05                               ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-23  7:16                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23  9:07                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-20 10:23                 ` Wu Fengguang

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