From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Iram Shahzad <iram.shahzad@jp.fujitsu.com>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: compaction: trying to understand the code
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:27:53 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100824002753.GB6568@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100823171416.GA2216@barrios-desktop>
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 01:14:16AM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 07:23:16AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:20:44 +0900
> > > Subject: [PATCH] compaction: handle active and inactive fairly in too_many_isolated
> > >
> > > Iram reported compaction's too_many_isolated loops forever.
> > > (http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-mm/msg08123.html)
> > >
> > > The meminfo of situation happened was inactive anon is zero.
> > > That's because the system has no memory pressure until then.
> > > While all anon pages was in active lru, compaction could select
> > > active lru as well as inactive lru. That's different things
> > > with vmscan's isolated. So we has been two too_many_isolated.
> > >
> > > While compaction can isolated pages in both active and inactive,
> > > current implementation of too_many_isolated only considers inactive.
> > > It made Iram's problem.
> > >
> > > This patch handles active and inactie with fair.
> > > That's because we can't expect where from and how many compaction would
> > > isolated pages.
> > >
> > > This patch changes (nr_isolated > nr_inactive) with
> > > nr_isolated > (nr_active + nr_inactive) / 2.
> >
> > The change looks good, thanks. However I'm not sure if it's enough.
> >
> > I wonder where the >40MB isolated pages come about. inactive_anon
> > remains 0 and free remains high over a long time, so it seems there
> > are no concurrent direct reclaims at all. Are the pages isolated by
> > the compaction process itself?
>
> I think it can't happen without kswapd or direct reclaim.
> But I think direct reclaim doesn't happen becuase Iram has no activity on system
> at that time. So just geussing following scenario.
>
> 1. trigger compaction by proc
> 2. isolate some pages and then migrate_pages
> 3. migrate_pages calls cond_resched
> 4. someone need big page(I am not sure this part)
> 4. kswapd: shrink anon active list due to inactive_anon_is_low
> 5. kswapd: isolate_lru_pages for order > 0 (ex, 0.5M page) so 0.5 M * 32 = 16M are isolated
> 6. kswapd: shrink_zone : shrink anon active list due to inactive_anon_is_low
> 7. kswapd: isolate_lru_pages for order > 0 (ex, 0.5M page) so 0.5 M * 32 are isolated again.
>
> Does it make sense?
One question is, why kswapd won't proceed after isolating all the pages?
If it has done with the isolated pages, we'll see growing inactive_anon
numbers.
/proc/vmstat should give more clues on any possible page reclaim
activities. Iram, would you help post it?
Thanks,
Fengguang
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-24 0:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-17 11:08 compaction: trying to understand the code Iram Shahzad
2010-08-17 11:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-18 8:19 ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-18 15:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19 7:09 ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-19 7:45 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19 7:46 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 8:08 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19 8:15 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 8:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 5:45 ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-20 5:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 6:13 ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-19 16:00 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-20 5:31 ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-20 5:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 9:35 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-20 10:22 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-22 15:31 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-22 23:23 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-23 1:58 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-23 3:03 ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-23 9:10 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 7:18 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 17:14 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-24 0:27 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-08-24 5:07 ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-24 6:52 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 8:05 ` Iram Shahzad
2010-08-23 7:16 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 9:07 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-20 10:23 ` Wu Fengguang
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