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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Do not wait the full timeout on congestion_wait when there is no congestion
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:31:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100826173147.GH20944@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100826172038.GA6873@barrios-desktop>

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 02:20:38AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 04:14:13PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > congestion_wait() is a bit stupid in that it goes to sleep even when there
> > is no congestion. This causes stalls in a number of situations and may be
> > partially responsible for bug reports about desktop interactivity.
> > 
> > This patch series aims to account for these unnecessary congestion_waits()
> > and to avoid going to sleep when there is no congestion available. Patches
> > 1 and 2 add instrumentation related to congestion which should be reuable
> > by alternative solutions to congestion_wait. Patch 3 calls cond_resched()
> > instead of going to sleep if there is no congestion.
> > 
> > Once again, I shoved this through performance test. Unlike previous tests,
> > I ran this on a ported version of my usual test-suite that should be suitable
> > for release soon. It's not quite as good as my old set but it's sufficient
> > for this and related series. The tests I ran were kernbench vmr-stream
> > iozone hackbench-sockets hackbench-pipes netperf-udp netperf-tcp sysbench
> > stress-highalloc. Sysbench was a read/write tests and stress-highalloc is
> > the usual stress the number of high order allocations that can be made while
> > the system is under severe stress. The suite contains the necessary analysis
> > scripts as well and I'd release it now except the documentation blows.
> > 
> > x86:    Intel Pentium D 3GHz with 3G RAM (no-brand machine)
> > x86-64:	AMD Phenom 9950 1.3GHz with 3G RAM (no-brand machine)
> > ppc64:	PPC970MP 2.5GHz with 3GB RAM (it's a terrasoft powerstation)
> > 
> > The disks on all of them were single disks and not particularly fast.
> > 
> > Comparison was between a 2.6.36-rc1 with patches 1 and 2 applied for
> > instrumentation and a second test with patch 3 applied.
> > 
> > In all cases, kernbench, hackbench, STREAM and iozone did not show any
> > performance difference because none of them were pressuring the system
> > enough to be calling congestion_wait() so I won't post the results.
> > About all worth noting for them is that nothing horrible appeared to break.
> > 
> > In the analysis scripts, I record unnecessary sleeps to be a sleep that
> > had no congestion. The post-processing scripts for cond_resched() will only
> > count an uncongested call to congestion_wait() as unnecessary if the process
> > actually gets scheduled. Ordinarily, we'd expect it to continue uninterrupted.
> > 
> > One vague concern I have is when too many pages are isolated, we call
> > congestion_wait(). This could now actively spin in the loop for its quanta
> > before calling cond_resched(). If it's calling with no congestion, it's
> > hard to know what the proper thing to do there is.
> 
> Suddenly, many processes could enter into the direct reclaim path by another
> reason(ex, fork bomb) regradless of congestion. backing dev congestion is 
> just one of them. 
> 

This situation applys with or without this series, right?

> I think if congestion_wait returns without calling io_schedule_timeout 
> by your patch, too_many_isolated can schedule_timeout to wait for the system's 
> calm to preventing OOM killing.
> 

More likely, to stop a loop in too_many_isolated() consuming CPU time it
can do nothing with.

> How about this?
> 
> If you don't mind, I will send the patch based on this patch series 
> after your patch settle down or Could you add this to your patch series?
> But I admit this doesn't almost affect your experiment. 
> 

I think it's a related topic so could belong with the series.

> From 70d6584e125c3954d74a69bfcb72de17244635d2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 02:06:45 +0900
> Subject: [PATCH] Wait regardless of congestion if too many pages are isolated
> 
> Suddenly, many processes could enter into the direct reclaim path
> regradless of congestion. backing dev congestion is just one of them.
> But current implementation calls congestion_wait if too many pages are isolated.
> 
> if congestion_wait returns without calling io_schedule_timeout,
> too_many_isolated can schedule_timeout to wait for the system's calm
> to preventing OOM killing.
> 

I think the reasoning here might be a little off. How about;

If many processes enter direct reclaim or memory compaction, too many pages
can get isolated. In this situation, too_many_isolated() can call
congestion_wait() but if there is no congestion, it fails to go to sleep
and instead spins until it's quota expires.

This patch checks if congestion_wait() returned without sleeping. If it
did because there was no congestion, it unconditionally goes to sleep
instead of hogging the CPU.

> Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> ---
>  mm/backing-dev.c |    5 ++---
>  mm/compaction.c  |    6 +++++-
>  mm/vmscan.c      |    6 +++++-
>  3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/backing-dev.c b/mm/backing-dev.c
> index 6abe860..9431bca 100644
> --- a/mm/backing-dev.c
> +++ b/mm/backing-dev.c
> @@ -756,8 +756,7 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(set_bdi_congested);
>   * @timeout: timeout in jiffies
>   *
>   * Waits for up to @timeout jiffies for a backing_dev (any backing_dev) to exit
> - * write congestion.  If no backing_devs are congested then just wait for the
> - * next write to be completed.
> + * write congestion.  If no backing_devs are congested then just returns.
>   */  
>  long congestion_wait(int sync, long timeout)
>  {
> @@ -776,7 +775,7 @@ long congestion_wait(int sync, long timeout)
>         if (atomic_read(&nr_bdi_congested[sync]) == 0) {
>                 unnecessary = true;
>                 cond_resched();
> -               ret = 0;
> +               ret = timeout;
>         } else {
>                 prepare_to_wait(wqh, &wait, TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
>                 ret = io_schedule_timeout(timeout);
> diff --git a/mm/compaction.c b/mm/compaction.c
> index 94cce51..7370683 100644
> --- a/mm/compaction.c
> +++ b/mm/compaction.c
> @@ -253,7 +253,11 @@ static unsigned long isolate_migratepages(struct zone *zone,
>          * delay for some time until fewer pages are isolated
>          */  
>         while (unlikely(too_many_isolated(zone))) {
> -               congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> +               long timeout = HZ/10;
> +               if (timeout == congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, timeout)) {
> +                       set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> +                       schedule_timeout(timeout);
> +               }
> 

We don't really need the timeout variable here but I see what you are
at. It's unfortunate to just go to sleep for HZ/10 but if it's not
congestion, we do not have any other event to wake up on at the moment.
We'd have to introduce a too_many_isolated waitqueue that is kicked if
pages are put back on the LRU.

This is better than spinning though.

>                 if (fatal_signal_pending(current))
>                         return 0;
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 3109ff7..f5e3e28 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1337,7 +1337,11 @@ shrink_inactive_list(unsigned long nr_to_scan, struct zone *zone,
>         unsigned long nr_dirty;
>         while (unlikely(too_many_isolated(zone, file, sc))) {
> -               congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> +               long timeout = HZ/10;
> +               if (timeout == congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, timeout)) {
> +                       set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> +                       schedule_timeout(timeout);
> +               }
> 
>                 /* We are about to die and free our memory. Return now. */
>                 if (fatal_signal_pending(current))

This seems very reasonable. I'll review it more carefully tomorrow and if I
spot nothing horrible, I'll add it onto the series. I'm not sure I'm hitting
the too_many_isolated() case but I cannot think of a better alternative
without adding more waitqueues.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-26 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-26 15:14 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Do not wait the full timeout on congestion_wait when there is no congestion Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 15:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] writeback: Account for time spent congestion_waited Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:23   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 18:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-26 15:14 ` [PATCH 2/3] writeback: Record if the congestion was unnecessary Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:35   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 17:41     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 18:29   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-26 20:31     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  2:12       ` Shaohua Li
2010-08-27  9:20         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  8:16       ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-27  9:24         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-30 13:19           ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-31 15:02             ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-02 15:49               ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-02 18:28                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-29 16:03     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 15:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] writeback: Do not congestion sleep when there are no congested BDIs Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:38   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 17:42     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 18:17       ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-26 20:23         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  1:11           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  9:34             ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  1:42         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  9:37           ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  5:13   ` Dave Chinner
2010-08-27  9:33     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:20 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Do not wait the full timeout on congestion_wait when there is no congestion Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 17:31   ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-08-26 17:50     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-27  1:21   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  1:41     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-27  1:50       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  2:02         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-27  4:34           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  9:38     ` Mel Gorman

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