From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 21:34:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100901203422.GA19519@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1009011512190.16322@router.home>
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 03:16:59PM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Sep 2010, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>
> > > How about the following? It records a delta and checks if delta is negative
> > > and would cause underflow.
> > >
> > > unsigned long zone_nr_free_pages(struct zone *zone)
> > > {
> > > unsigned long nr_free_pages = zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES);
> > > long delta = 0;
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * While kswapd is awake, it is considered the zone is under some
> > > * memory pressure. Under pressure, there is a risk that
> > > * per-cpu-counter-drift will allow the min watermark to be breached
> > > * potentially causing a live-lock. While kswapd is awake and
> > > * free pages are low, get a better estimate for free pages
> > > */
> > > if (nr_free_pages < zone->percpu_drift_mark &&
> > > !waitqueue_active(&zone->zone_pgdat->kswapd_wait)) {
> > > int cpu;
> > >
> > > for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
> > > struct per_cpu_pageset *pset;
> > >
> > > pset = per_cpu_ptr(zone->pageset, cpu);
> > > delta += pset->vm_stat_diff[NR_FREE_PAGES];
> > > }
> > > }
> > >
> > > /* Watch for underflow */
> > > if (delta < 0 && abs(delta) > nr_free_pages)
> > > delta = -nr_free_pages;
>
> Not sure what the point here is. If the delta is going below zero then
> there was a concurrent operation updating the counters negatively while
> we summed up the counters.
The point is if the negative delta is greater than the current value of
nr_free_pages then nr_free_pages would underflow when delta is applied to it.
> It is then safe to assume a value of zero. We
> cannot really be more accurate than that.
>
> so
>
> if (delta < 0)
> delta = 0;
>
> would be correct.
Lets say the reading at the start for nr_free_pages is 120 and the delta is
-20, then the estimated true value of nr_free_pages is 100. If we used your
logic, the estimate would be 120. Maybe I'm missing what you're saying.
> See also handling of counter underflow in
> vmstat.h:zone_page_state().
I'm not seeing the relation. zone_nr_free_pages() is trying to
reconcile the reading from zone_page_state() with the contents of
vm_stat_diff[].
> As I have said before: I would rather have the
> counter handling in one place to avoid creating differences in counter
> handling.
>
And I'd rather not hurt the paths for every counter unnecessarily
without good cause. I can move zone_nr_free_pages() to mm/vmstat.c if
you'd prefer?
--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-01 20:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-31 17:37 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V3 Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: page allocator: Update free page counters after pages are placed on the free list Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 18:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-01 7:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 23:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-31 17:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 18:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-31 23:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 7:24 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-01 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 20:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-01 20:34 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-09-02 0:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02 0:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02 0:49 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 18:26 ` Christoph Lameter
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-09-03 9:08 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V4 Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 9:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 22:55 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-03 23:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-03 23:28 ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04 0:54 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-05 18:12 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 8:00 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V2 Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 8:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 12:56 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:03 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 13:41 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:55 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 16:04 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 16:13 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:42 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 9:43 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:47 ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 16:06 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 2:26 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 10:42 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 15:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 15:05 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 10:16 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 11:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 14:20 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 8:51 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-18 14:57 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 8:06 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 10:33 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 10:38 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:01 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 14:09 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:34 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:07 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:22 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:40 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:44 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:46 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 16:06 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 16:45 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18 2:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-18 15:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19 0:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 19:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19 23:49 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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