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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:33:13 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100905233313.GV7362@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100905134554.GA7083@localhost>

On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:45:54PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> [restoring CC list]
> 
> On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:14:47PM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 02:05:39PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 10:15:55AM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:54:00AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > > Dave, could you post (publicly) the kconfig and /proc/vmstat?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'd like to check if you have swap or memory compaction enabled..
> > > > 
> > > > Swap is enabled - it has 512MB of swap space:
> > > > 
> > > > $ free
> > > >              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> > > > Mem:       4054304     100928    3953376          0       4096      43108
> > > > -/+ buffers/cache:      53724    4000580
> > > > Swap:       497976          0     497976
> > > 
> > > It looks swap is not used at all.
> > 
> > It isn't 30s after boot, abut I haven't checked after a livelock.
> 
> That's fine. I see in your fs_mark-wedge-1.png that there are no
> read/write IO at all when CPUs are 100% busy. So there should be no
> swap IO at "livelock" time.
> 
> > > > And memory compaction is not enabled:
> > > > 
> > > > $ grep COMPACT .config
> > > > # CONFIG_COMPACTION is not set
> 
> Memory compaction is not likely the cause too. It will only kick in for
> order > 3 allocations.
> 
> > > > 
> > > > The .config is pretty much a 'make defconfig' and then enabling XFS and
> > > > whatever debug I need (e.g. locking, memleak, etc).
> > > 
> > > Thanks! The problem seems hard to debug -- you cannot login at all
> > > when it is doing lock contentions, so cannot get sysrq call traces.
> > 
> > Well, I don't know whether it is lock contention at all. The sets of
> > traces I have got previously have shown backtraces on all CPUs in
> > direct reclaim with several in draining queues, but no apparent lock
> > contention.
> 
> That's interesting. Do you still have the full backtraces?
> 
> Maybe your system eats too much slab cache (icache/dcache) by creating
> so many zero-sized files. The system may run into problems reclaiming
> so many (dirty) slab pages.

Yes, that's where most of the memory pressure is coming from.
However, it's not stuck reclaiming slab - it's pretty clear from
another chart that I run that the slab cache contents is not
changing aross the livelock. IOWs, it appears to get stuck before it
gets to shrink_slab().

Worth noting, though, is that XFS metadata workloads do create page
cache pressure as well - all the metadata pages are cached on a
separate address space, so perhaps it is getting stuck there...

> > > How about enabling CONFIG_LOCK_STAT? Then you can check
> > > /proc/lock_stat when the contentions are over.
> > 
> > Enabling the locking debug/stats gathering slows the workload
> > by a factor of 3 and doesn't produce the livelock....
> 
> Oh sorry.. but it would still be interesting to check the top
> contended locks for this workload without any livelocks :)

I'll see what i can do.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-05 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-03  9:08 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V4 Mel Gorman
2010-09-03  9:08 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: page allocator: Update free page counters after pages are placed on the free list Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 22:38   ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-05 18:06     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-03  9:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 22:55   ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-03 23:17     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-03 23:28       ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04  0:54         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-05 18:12     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-03  9:08 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 23:00   ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04  2:25     ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-04  3:21       ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04  7:58         ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-04  8:14           ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]             ` <20100905015400.GA10714@localhost>
     [not found]               ` <20100905021555.GG705@dastard>
     [not found]                 ` <20100905060539.GA17450@localhost>
     [not found]                   ` <20100905131447.GJ705@dastard>
2010-09-05 13:45                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-05 23:33                       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-09-06  4:02                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-06  8:40                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 21:50                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-08  8:49                             ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-09 12:39                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-10  6:17                                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-07 14:23                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-08  2:13                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-04  3:23       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-04  3:59         ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04  4:37           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-05 18:22       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-05 18:14     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08  7:43   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-08 20:05     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-09 12:41     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09 13:45       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-09 13:55         ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09 14:32           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-09 15:05             ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-10  2:56               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-03 23:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V4 Andrew Morton
2010-09-21 11:17   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-21 12:58     ` [stable] " Greg KH
2010-09-21 14:23       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-23 18:49         ` Greg KH
2010-09-24  9:14           ` Mel Gorman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-31 17:37 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V3 Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 18:26   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23  8:00 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V2 Mel Gorman
2010-08-23  8:00 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 23:17   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-16  9:42 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator Mel Gorman
2010-08-16  9:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:50   ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-17  2:57   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18  3:02   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 14:47   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:10     ` Mel Gorman

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