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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/17] writeback: remove the internal 5% low bound on dirty_ratio
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:57:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100913095708.GA31310@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100913095130.GD23508@csn.ul.ie>

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 05:51:30PM +0800, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:49:46PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > The dirty_ratio was siliently limited in global_dirty_limits() to >= 5%.
> > This is not a user expected behavior. And it's inconsistent with
> > calc_period_shift(), which uses the plain vm_dirty_ratio value.
> > 
> > Let's rip the arbitrary internal bound. It may impact some very weird
> > user space applications. However we are going to dynamicly sizing the
> > dirty limits anyway, which may well break such applications, too.
> > 
> > At the same time, fix balance_dirty_pages() to work with the
> > dirty_thresh=0 case. This allows applications to proceed when
> > dirty+writeback pages are all cleaned.
> > 
> > And ">" fits with the name "exceeded" better than ">=" does. Neil
> > think it is an aesthetic improvement as well as a functional one :)
> > 
> > CC: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> > Proposed-by: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
> > Acked-by: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> > Reviewed-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
> > Reviewed-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > ---
> >  fs/fs-writeback.c   |    2 +-
> >  mm/page-writeback.c |   16 +++++-----------
> >  2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
> > 
> > --- linux-next.orig/mm/page-writeback.c	2010-08-29 08:10:30.000000000 +0800
> > +++ linux-next/mm/page-writeback.c	2010-08-29 08:12:08.000000000 +0800
> > @@ -415,14 +415,8 @@ void global_dirty_limits(unsigned long *
> >  
> >  	if (vm_dirty_bytes)
> >  		dirty = DIV_ROUND_UP(vm_dirty_bytes, PAGE_SIZE);
> > -	else {
> > -		int dirty_ratio;
> > -
> > -		dirty_ratio = vm_dirty_ratio;
> > -		if (dirty_ratio < 5)
> > -			dirty_ratio = 5;
> > -		dirty = (dirty_ratio * available_memory) / 100;
> > -	}
> > +	else
> > +		dirty = (vm_dirty_ratio * available_memory) / 100;
> >  
> 
> What kernel is this? In a recent mainline kernel and on linux-next, this
> is

It applies to linux-next 20100903.

> dirty = (dirty_ratio * available_memory) / 100;
> 
> i.e. * instead of +. With +, the value for dirty is almost always going
> to be simply 1%.

Where's the "+" come from?

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-13  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-12 15:49 [PATCH 00/17] [RFC] soft and dynamic dirty throttling limits Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 01/17] writeback: remove the internal 5% low bound on dirty_ratio Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13  9:23   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-13  9:51   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13  9:57     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-09-13 10:10       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 02/17] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13  8:45   ` Dave Chinner
2010-09-13 11:38     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 03/17] writeback: per-task rate limit to balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 04/17] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty/writeback pages go down Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 05/17] writeback: quit throttling when signal pending Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 20:46   ` Neil Brown
2010-09-13  1:55     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13  3:21       ` Neil Brown
2010-09-13  3:48         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-14  8:23           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-14  8:33             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-14  8:44               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-14  9:17                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-14  9:25                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 06/17] writeback: move task dirty fraction to balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 07/17] writeback: add trace event for balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 08/17] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:59   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-14  8:32   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 09/17] writeback: bdi write bandwidth estimation Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 10/17] writeback: show bdi write bandwidth in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 11/17] writeback: make nr_to_write a per-file limit Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 12/17] writeback: scale IO chunk size up to device bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 13/17] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 16:15   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:49 ` [PATCH 14/17] vmscan: add scan_control.priority Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 15/17] mm: lower soft dirty limits on memory pressure Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13  9:40   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 16/17] mm: create /vm/dirty_pressure in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-09-12 15:50 ` [PATCH 17/17] writeback: consolidate balance_dirty_pages() variable names Wu Fengguang
2010-10-12 14:17 ` [PATCH 00/17] [RFC] soft and dynamic dirty throttling limits Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-13  3:07   ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-13  3:23     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-13  8:26     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-13  9:26       ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-01  6:24         ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-04  3:41           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-04 12:48             ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-04 13:12             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-05 14:56               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-06 10:42                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-14 13:12   ` Wu Fengguang

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