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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
To: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Nathan Fontenot <nfont@austin.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] v2 De-Couple sysfs memory directories from memory sections
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:50:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100929025035.GA13096@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100928151218.GJ14068@sgi.com>

On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:12:18AM -0500, Robin Holt wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 02:44:40PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >  On 09/27/2010 09:09 PM, Nathan Fontenot wrote:
> > >This set of patches decouples the concept that a single memory
> > >section corresponds to a single directory in
> > >/sys/devices/system/memory/.  On systems
> > >with large amounts of memory (1+ TB) there are perfomance issues
> > >related to creating the large number of sysfs directories.  For
> > >a powerpc machine with 1 TB of memory we are creating 63,000+
> > >directories.  This is resulting in boot times of around 45-50
> > >minutes for systems with 1 TB of memory and 8 hours for systems
> > >with 2 TB of memory.  With this patch set applied I am now seeing
> > >boot times of 5 minutes or less.
> > >
> > >The root of this issue is in sysfs directory creation. Every time
> > >a directory is created a string compare is done against all sibling
> > >directories to ensure we do not create duplicates.  The list of
> > >directory nodes in sysfs is kept as an unsorted list which results
> > >in this being an exponentially longer operation as the number of
> > >directories are created.
> > >
> > >The solution solved by this patch set is to allow a single
> > >directory in sysfs to span multiple memory sections.  This is
> > >controlled by an optional architecturally defined function
> > >memory_block_size_bytes().  The default definition of this
> > >routine returns a memory block size equal to the memory section
> > >size. This maintains the current layout of sysfs memory
> > >directories as it appears to userspace to remain the same as it
> > >is today.
> > >
> > 
> > Why not update sysfs directory creation to be fast, for example by
> > using an rbtree instead of a linked list.  This fixes an
> > implementation problem in the kernel instead of working around it
> > and creating a new ABI.
> 
> Because the old ABI creates 129,000+ entries inside
> /sys/devices/system/memory with their associated links from
> /sys/devices/system/node/node*/ back to those directory entries.
> 
> Thankfully things like rpm, hald, and other miscellaneous commands scan
> that information.

Really?  Why?  Why would rpm care about this?  hald is dead now so we
don't need to worry about that anymore, but what other commands/programs
read this information?

thanks,

greg k-h

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-29  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-27 19:09 [PATCH 0/8] v2 De-Couple sysfs memory directories from memory sections Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-27 19:21 ` [PATCH 1/8] v2 Move find_memory_block() routine Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-27 19:22 ` [PATCH 2/8] v2 Add section count to memory_block struct Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-28  9:31   ` Robin Holt
2010-09-28 18:14     ` Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-27 19:23 ` [PATCH 3/8] v2 Add mutex for adding/removing memory blocks Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-27 19:25 ` [PATCH 4/8] v2 Allow memory block to span multiple memory sections Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-27 23:55   ` Dave Hansen
2010-09-28 18:06     ` Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-28 12:48   ` Robin Holt
2010-09-28 18:20     ` Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-27 19:26 ` [PATCH 5/8] v2 Add end_phys_index file Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-27 19:27 ` [PATCH 6/8] v2 Update node sysfs code Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-28  9:29   ` Robin Holt
2010-09-28 15:21     ` Dave Hansen
2010-09-27 19:28 ` [PATCH 7/8] v2 Define memory_block_size_bytes() for powerpc/pseries Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-27 19:28 ` [PATCH 8/8] v2 Update memory hotplug documentation Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-28 12:45   ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-28 18:18     ` Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-28 12:38 ` [PATCH 0/8] v2 De-Couple sysfs memory directories from memory sections Robin Holt
2010-09-28 18:17   ` Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-29 19:28     ` Robin Holt
2010-09-30 15:17       ` Nathan Fontenot
2010-09-30 16:39       ` Robin Holt
2010-09-28 12:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-28 15:12   ` Robin Holt
2010-09-28 16:34     ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-29  2:50     ` Greg KH [this message]
2010-09-29  8:32       ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-29 12:37         ` Greg KH
2010-09-29 13:39           ` Kay Sievers
2010-10-03  7:52           ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-28 15:17   ` Dave Hansen

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