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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"cl@linux.com" <cl@linux.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/3] mm: reserve max drift pages at boot time instead using zone_page_state_snapshot()
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 11:43:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101018104330.GY30667@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101014113426.8B83.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:39:34AM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > index 53627fa..194bdaa 100644
> > > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > > @@ -4897,6 +4897,15 @@ static void setup_per_zone_wmarks(void)
> > >  	for_each_zone(zone) {
> > >  		u64 tmp;
> > >  
> > > +		/*
> > > +		 * If max drift are less than 1%, reserve max drift pages
> > > +		 * instead costly runtime calculation.
> > > +		 */
> > > +		if (zone->percpu_drift_mark < (zone->present_pages/100)) {
> > > +			pages_min += zone->percpu_drift_mark;
> > > +			zone->percpu_drift_mark = 0;
> > > +		}
> > > +
> > 
> > I don't see how this solves Shaohua's problem as such. Large systems will
> > still suffer a bug performance penalty from zone_page_state_snapshot(). I
> > do see the logic of adjusting min for larger systems to limit the amount of
> > time per-cpu thresholds are lowered but that would be as a follow-on to my
> > patch rather than a replacement.
> 
> My patch rescue 256cpus or more smaller systems.

True, and it would be nice to limit how many machines any of this logic
applies to.

> and I assumed 4096cpus system don't
> run IO intensive workload such as Shaohua's case.

Also true, but they still suffer the drift problem. The reproduction
case would change but otherwise the drift must still be handled.

> they always use cpusets and run hpc
> workload.
> 
> If you know another >1024cpus system, please let me know.
> And again, my patch works on 4096cpus sysmtem although slow, but your don't.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 

I think both are ultimately needed. For my patch, I need to make sure that
wakeup_kswapd() actually wakes up kswapd by using
zone_page_state_snapshot() when necessary. Your patch avoids the problem
differently but in a way that is nice for "smaller" machines.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-18 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-28  5:08 zone state overhead Shaohua Li
2010-09-28 12:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-28 13:30   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-28 13:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-28 13:51       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-28 14:08         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29  3:02           ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-29  4:02     ` David Rientjes
2010-09-29  4:47       ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-29  5:06         ` David Rientjes
2010-09-29 10:03       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-29 14:12         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29 14:17           ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-29 14:34             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29 14:41               ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-29 14:45                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-29 14:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29 14:52                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29 19:44         ` David Rientjes
2010-10-08 15:29 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-09  0:58   ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-11  8:56     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-12  1:05       ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-12 16:25         ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-13  2:41           ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-13 12:09             ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-13  3:36           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:25             ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] mm: reserve max drift pages at boot time instead using zone_page_state_snapshot() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:27               ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] mm, mem-hotplug: recalculate lowmem_reserve when memory hotplug occur KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:39                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-13 12:59                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-14  2:44                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:28               ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] mm: update pcp->stat_threshold " KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:40                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-13 13:02                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-13  6:32               ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] mm: reserve max drift pages at boot time instead using zone_page_state_snapshot() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13 13:19                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-14  2:39                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 10:43                     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-10-13  7:10               ` [experimental][PATCH] mm,vmstat: per cpu stat flush too when per cpu page cache flushed KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  7:16                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-13 13:22                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-14  2:50                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-15 17:31                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-18  9:27                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 15:44                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-19  1:10                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 11:08                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-19  1:34                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  9:06                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-18 15:51                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-19  0:43                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13 11:24             ` zone state overhead Mel Gorman
2010-10-14  3:07               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 10:39                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-19  1:16                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  9:08                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-22 14:12                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-22 15:23                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-22 18:45                           ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-22 15:27                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-22 18:46                           ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-22 20:01                             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-25  4:46                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-27  8:19                           ` Mel Gorman

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