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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"cl@linux.com" <cl@linux.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: zone state overhead
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:19:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101027081910.GI5383@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101025132824.9176.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 01:46:19PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > - * Return 1 if free pages are above 'mark'. This takes into account the order
> > + * Return true if free pages are above 'mark'. This takes into account the order
> >   * of the allocation.
> >   */
> > -int zone_watermark_ok(struct zone *z, int order, unsigned long mark,
> > -		      int classzone_idx, int alloc_flags)
> > +bool __zone_watermark_ok(struct zone *z, int order, unsigned long mark,
> > +		      int classzone_idx, int alloc_flags, long free_pages)
> 
> static?
> 

Yes, it should be.

> 
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index c5dfabf..ba0c70a 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -2082,7 +2082,7 @@ static int sleeping_prematurely(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order, long remaining)
> >  		if (zone->all_unreclaimable)
> >  			continue;
> >  
> > -		if (!zone_watermark_ok(zone, order, high_wmark_pages(zone),
> > +		if (!zone_watermark_ok_safe(zone, order, high_wmark_pages(zone),
> >  								0, 0))
> >  			return 1;
> >  	}
> 
> Do we need to change balance_pgdat() too?
> Otherwise, balance_pgdat() return immediately and can make semi-infinite busy loop.
> 

While balance_pgdat is calling zone_watermark_ok() the thresholds are
very low and the expected level of drift is minimal.  I considered the
semi-infinite busy loop to have a worst-case situation of 2 seconds until
the vmstat counters were synced and zone_watermark_ok* values matched.
There is an reasonable expectation that normal allocate/free activity would
sync the values for zone_watermark_ok* before that timeout.

To my surprise though, using zone_watermark_ok_safe() in balance_pgdat()
does not significantly increase the amount of time spent in the _safe()
function so it'll be called in the next version.

> 
> > diff --git a/mm/vmstat.c b/mm/vmstat.c
> > index 355a9e6..ddee139 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmstat.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
> > @@ -81,6 +81,12 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(vm_stat);
> >  
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> >  
> > +static int calculate_pressure_threshold(struct zone *zone)
> > +{
> > +	return max(1, (int)((high_wmark_pages(zone) - low_wmark_pages(zone) /
> > +				num_online_cpus())));
> > +}
> 
> On Shaohua's machine,
> 
> 	CPU: 64
> 	MEM: 8GBx4 (=32GB)
> 	per-cpu vm-stat threashold: 98
> 
> 	zone->min = sqrt(32x1024x1024x16)/4 = 5792 KB = 1448 pages
> 	zone->high - zone->low = zone->min/4 = 362pages
> 	pressure-vm-threshold = 362/64 ~= 5
> 
> Hrm, this reduction seems slightly dramatically (98->5). 

Yes, but consider the maximum possible drift;

	percpu-maximum-drift = 5*64 = 320

The value is massively reduced and the cost goes up but this is the value
necessary to avoid a situation where the high watermark is "ok" when in fact
the min watermark can be breached.

> Shaohua, can you please rerun your problem workload on your 64cpus machine with
> applying this patch?
> Of cource, If there is no performance degression, I'm not against this one.
> 

Your patches that adjusted min and high may allow this threshold to grow again.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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      reply	other threads:[~2010-10-27  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-28  5:08 zone state overhead Shaohua Li
2010-09-28 12:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-28 13:30   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-28 13:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-28 13:51       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-28 14:08         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29  3:02           ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-29  4:02     ` David Rientjes
2010-09-29  4:47       ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-29  5:06         ` David Rientjes
2010-09-29 10:03       ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-29 14:12         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29 14:17           ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-29 14:34             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29 14:41               ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-29 14:45                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-29 14:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29 14:52                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-29 19:44         ` David Rientjes
2010-10-08 15:29 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-09  0:58   ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-11  8:56     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-12  1:05       ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-12 16:25         ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-13  2:41           ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-13 12:09             ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-13  3:36           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:25             ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] mm: reserve max drift pages at boot time instead using zone_page_state_snapshot() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:27               ` [RFC][PATCH 1/3] mm, mem-hotplug: recalculate lowmem_reserve when memory hotplug occur KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:39                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-13 12:59                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-14  2:44                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:28               ` [RFC][PATCH 2/3] mm: update pcp->stat_threshold " KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  6:40                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-13 13:02                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-13  6:32               ` [RFC][PATCH 3/3] mm: reserve max drift pages at boot time instead using zone_page_state_snapshot() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13 13:19                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-14  2:39                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 10:43                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-13  7:10               ` [experimental][PATCH] mm,vmstat: per cpu stat flush too when per cpu page cache flushed KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13  7:16                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-13 13:22                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-14  2:50                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-15 17:31                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-18  9:27                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 15:44                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-19  1:10                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 11:08                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-19  1:34                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  9:06                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-18 15:51                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-19  0:43                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-13 11:24             ` zone state overhead Mel Gorman
2010-10-14  3:07               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 10:39                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-19  1:16                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  9:08                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-22 14:12                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-22 15:23                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-22 18:45                           ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-22 15:27                         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-22 18:46                           ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-22 20:01                             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-25  4:46                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-27  8:19                           ` Mel Gorman [this message]

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