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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: Aidar Kultayev <the.aidar@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: 2.6.36 io bring the system to its knees
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 15:30:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101028133036.GA30565@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinoGGLTN2JRwjJtF6Ra5auZVg+VSa=TyrtAkDor@mail.gmail.com>


* Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org> wrote:

> * Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Aidar Kultayev <the.aidar@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Find attached screenshot ( latencytop_n_powertop.png ) which depicts
> >> > artifacts where the window manager froze at the time I was trying to
> >> > see a tab in Konsole where the powertop was running.
> >>
> >> You seem to have forgotten to include the attachment.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> > I got it - it appears it was too large for lkml's ~500K mail size limit.
> >
> > Aidar, mind sending a smaller image?
> 
> Looks mostly VFS to me. Aidar, does killing Picasa make things smoother for you? 
> If so, maybe the VFS scalability patches will help.

Hm, but the VFS scalability patches mostly decrease CPU usage, and does that mostly 
on many-core systems.

While the bugreport here is rather plain:

> How do I notice slowdowns ? The JuK lags so badly that it can't play any music, 
> the mouse pointer freezes, kwin effects freeze for few seconds.
>
> How can I make it much worse ? I can try & run disk clean up under XP, that is 
> running in VBox, with folder compression. On top of it if I start copying big 
> files in linux ( 700MB avis, etc ), GUI effects freeze, mouse pointer freezes for 
> few seconds.
>
> And this is on 2.6.36 that is supposed to cure these "features". From this 
> perspective, 2.6.36 is no better than any previous stable kernel I've tried. 
> Probably as bad with regards to IO issues.

"Many seconds freezes" and slowdowns wont be fixed via the VFS scalability patches 
i'm afraid.

This has the appearance of some really bad IO or VM latency problem. Unfixed and 
present in stable kernel versions going from years ago all the way to v2.6.36.

Thanks,

	Ingo

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-28 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2010-10-28  6:09     ` 2.6.36 io bring the system to its knees Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-28  6:32       ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-28  9:00         ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-28  9:34           ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-28 11:16           ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-28 11:33             ` Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-28 11:48               ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-28 12:18                 ` Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-28 13:46                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-28 13:54                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-28 13:30             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-10-28 13:47               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-28 13:50                 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-28 17:01               ` Chris Mason
2010-10-28 17:57                 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-29 14:52                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-29 15:33                     ` Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-30  9:14                       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-10-30 13:02                         ` Aidar Kultayev
2010-10-30 19:06                           ` Chris Mason
2010-10-31  2:31                           ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-31 17:49                             ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-11-02  3:10                           ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-02 11:47                 ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2010-11-02 13:12                   ` Chris Mason
2010-11-04 16:05                     ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2010-11-04 23:35                       ` Steven Barrett
2010-11-04 23:44                 ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-04 23:48                   ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-05  1:43                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-05 12:48                       ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2010-11-06 14:10                         ` dave b
2010-11-06 15:12                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-07  6:06                             ` dave b
2010-11-07 12:08                           ` Jens Axboe
2010-11-07 15:50                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-10  1:32                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-10  2:01                                 ` dave b
2010-11-10  8:08                                 ` Evgeniy Ivanov
2010-11-10  8:24                                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-10 14:22                                     ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-10 14:20                                 ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-10 14:27                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-11-10 14:55                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-10 19:09                                       ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-10 14:33                                 ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-10 14:57                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-10 15:00                                     ` Chris Mason
2010-11-10 23:36                                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-10 15:59                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-10 16:46                                   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-10 16:55                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-10 17:10                                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2010-11-10 18:55                                         ` Mark Lord
2010-11-10 18:27                                     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-11-10 23:43                                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-06 19:10                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-11-07 17:16                       ` Jesper Juhl
2010-11-09 19:47                         ` Evgeniy Ivanov
2010-11-09 20:20                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-09 21:00                       ` Chris Mason
2010-10-31  1:22       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-31  1:51         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-01  1:09           ` Dimitrios Apostolou
2010-11-02  1:20             ` Wu Fengguang

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