From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:25:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101029112541.8ab906bb.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1010290955510.20370@router.home>
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 09:58:25 -0500 (CDT)
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
>
> > > To ensure that kswapd wakes up, a safe version of zone_watermark_ok()
> > > is introduced that takes a more accurate reading of NR_FREE_PAGES when
> > > called from wakeup_kswapd, when deciding whether it is really safe to go
> > > back to sleep in sleeping_prematurely() and when deciding if a zone is
> > > really balanced or not in balance_pgdat(). We are still using an expensive
> > > function but limiting how often it is called.
> >
> > Here I go again. I have a feeling that I already said this, but I
> > can't find versions 2 or 3 in the archives..
> >
> > Did you evaluate using plain on percpu_counters for this? They won't
> > solve the performance problem as they're basically the same thing as
> > these open-coded counters. But they'd reduce the amount of noise and
> > custom-coded boilerplate in mm/.
>
> The zone counters are done using the ZVCs in vmstat.c to save space
well, they actually waste space because of that threshold thing.
> and to
> be in the same cacheline as other hot data necessary for allocation and
> free.
Yes, that'll save some misses.
> >
> > > + threshold = max(1, (int)(watermark_distance / num_online_cpus()));
> > > +
> > > + /*
> > > + * Maximum threshold is 125
> >
> > Reasoning?
>
> Differentials are stored in 8 bit signed ints.
>
> > > + put_online_cpus();
> > > +}
> >
> > Given that ->stat_threshold is the same for each CPU, why store it for
> > each CPU at all? Why not put it in the zone and eliminate the inner
> > loop?
>
> Doing that caused cache misses in the past and reduced the performance of
> the ZVCs. This way the threshold is in the same cacheline as the
> differentials.
This sounds wrong. As long as that threshold isn't stored in a
cacheline which other CPUs are modifying, all CPUs should be able to
happily cache it. Maybe it needed a bit of padding inside the zone
struct.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-29 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-28 15:13 [PATCH 0/2] Reduce the amount of time spent in watermark-related functions V4 Mel Gorman
2010-10-28 15:13 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low Mel Gorman
2010-10-28 22:04 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-29 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-29 19:40 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-02 0:53 ` Shaohua Li
2010-11-09 11:33 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-09 16:48 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-29 14:58 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-29 18:25 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-10-29 19:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-28 15:13 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: vmstat: Use a single setter function and callback for adjusting percpu thresholds Mel Gorman
2010-10-28 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-29 10:17 ` Mel Gorman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-10-27 8:47 [PATCH 0/2] Reduce the amount of time spent in watermark-related functions Mel Gorman
2010-10-27 8:47 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: page allocator: Adjust the per-cpu counter threshold when memory is low Mel Gorman
2010-10-27 20:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-10-28 1:09 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-10-28 9:49 ` Mel Gorman
2010-10-28 9:58 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-01 7:06 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-26 16:06 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 9:56 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29 13:16 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:08 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-29 15:22 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:26 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-11-29 15:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-23 22:18 ` David Rientjes
2010-12-23 22:35 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-23 23:00 ` Kyle McMartin
2010-12-23 23:07 ` David Rientjes
2010-12-23 23:17 ` Andrew Morton
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