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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Shane Shrybman <shrybman@teksavvy.com>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Oops while rebalancing, now unmountable.
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:12:04 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101115191204.GB11374@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101115184657.GJ6809@random.random>

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 07:46:57PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> I've been reading the writeout() in mm/migrate.c and I wonder if maybe
> that should have been WB_SYNC_ALL or if we miss a
> wait_on_page_writeback in after ->writepage() returns? Can you have a
> look there? We check the PG_writeback bit when the page is not dirty
> (well before fallback_migrate_page is called), but after calling
> writeout() we don't return to wait on PG_writeback. We make sure to
> hold the page lock after ->writepage returns but that doesn't mean
> PG_writeback isn't still set.

I didn't even notice that, but the WB_SYNC_NONE does indeed seem
buggy to me.  If we set the sync_mode to WB_SYNC_NONE filesystem
can and frequently do trylock operations and might just skip to
write it out completely.

So we defintively do need to change writeout to do a WB_SYNC_ALL
writeback.  In addition to that we'll also need the
wait_on_page_writeback call to make sure we actually wait for I/O
to finish.

Also what protects us from updating the page while we write it out?
PG_writeback on many filesystems doesn't protect writes from modifying
the in-flight buffer, and just locking the page after ->writepage
is racy without a check that nothing changed.

> Compaction practically only happens in the context of the task
> allocating memory (in my tree it is also used by kswapd). Not
> immediate to ask a separate daemon to invoke it. Not sure why this
> should screw delalloc. Compaction isn't freeing any memory at all,
> it's not reclaim. It just defragments and moves stuff around and it
> may have to write dirty pages to do so.

kswapd is fine.  Other task allocation memory are direct reclaimers.
Direct reclaim through the filesystem delalloc conversion and the I/O
stack guarantees you stack overflows, that's why filesystems refuse
to do anything in ->writepage for this case.  btrfs and XFS have
explicit checks for PF_MEMALLOC (with a carve out for kswapd in XFS),
and ext4 only writes already allocated blocks in ->writepage but never
does delalloc conversions.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-15 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <1289310046-sup-839@think>
     [not found]   ` <1289326892.4231.2.camel@mars>
     [not found]     ` <1289764507.4303.9.camel@mars>
     [not found]       ` <20101114204206.GV6809@random.random>
2010-11-14 22:00         ` Oops while rebalancing, now unmountable Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-14 22:12           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-11-15 18:23             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-15 18:46               ` Chris Mason
2010-11-15 19:03                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-16 21:48                 ` Shane Shrybman
2010-11-15 18:46               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-11-15 19:03                 ` Chris Mason
2010-11-15 19:16                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-11-15 19:12                 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-11-15 19:18                   ` Chris Mason
2010-11-15 19:29                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-11-15 20:54                     ` Christoph Hellwig

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