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From: Shaohui Zheng <shaohui.zheng@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, haicheng.li@linux.intel.com,
	lethal@linux-sh.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
	shaohui.zheng@linux.intel.com,
	Haicheng Li <haicheng.li@intel.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>
Subject: Re: [7/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: extend memory probe interface to support NUMA
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:51:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101119075119.GD3327@shaohui> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1290019807.9173.3789.camel@nimitz>

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:50:07AM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 10:08 +0800, shaohui.zheng@intel.com wrote:
> > And more we make it friendly, it is possible to add memory to do
> > 
> >         echo 3g > memory/probe
> >         echo 1024m,3 > memory/probe
> > 
> > It maintains backwards compatibility.
> > 
> > Another format suggested by Dave Hansen:
> > 
> >         echo physical_address=0x40000000 numa_node=3 > memory/probe
> > 
> > it is more explicit to show meaning of the parameters.
> 
> The other thing that Greg suggested was to use configfs.  Looking back
> on it, that makes a lot of sense.  We can do better than these "probe"
> files.
> 
> In your case, it might be useful to tell the kernel to be able to add
> memory in a node and add the node all in one go.  That'll probably be
> closer to what the hardware will do, and will exercise different code
> paths that the separate "add node", "then add memory" steps that you're
> using here.
> 
> For the emulator, I also have to wonder if using debugfs is the right
> was since its ABI is a bit more, well, _flexible_ over time. :)

There will be a lot of problems which need to solve if we decide to use configfs or
debugfs. I have no good method to solve these problems, so I want to listen some
advices.

1) How to design the probe interace 
I can not find a good method with configfs to replace current memory/probe 
interface.

As we know, A configfs config_item is created via an explicit userspace
operation mkdir. when we add a memory section, we need to convert it to an mkdir
action. the following implementation is the possible solution.

node/memory hotplug:
/configfs/node
when we hotadd node, we can create dir with command:
	mkdir /configfs/node/nodeX

And export a probe interface
/configfs/node/nodeX/probe, we can use this interface to hot-add memory section
to this node.

after memory hot-add with the probe interface, there should be some memory
entries for each memory section under this directories.

cpu hotplug:
/configfs/cpu/
to hot-add a cpu
	mkdir /configfs/cpu/cpuX
to hot-remove a CPU
	rmdir /configfs/cpu/cpuX

I did not whether it is the expected interface on configfs.

2) co-existence for sysfs and configfs

If we keep both interfaces, thing becomes complicated. when we hot-add
memory/cpu thru sysfs, we should create the sysfs entrie for it, and we should
also create the configfs entries for it. Vice versa, when we hot-add/remove
cpu/memory thru configfs, we should maintain the changes on sysfs, too.

it becomes very complicated after we have both configfs & sysfs interface, and
we should not get them together, we need to get it simple.

the purpose of hotplug emulator is providing a possible solution for cpu/memory
hotplug testing, the interface upgrading is not part of emulator. Let's forget
configfs here.

-- 
Thanks & Regards,
Shaohui

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-11-19  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-17  2:07 [0/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator - Introduction & Feedbacks shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [1/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: add function to hide memory region via e820 table shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  9:20     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18 21:16       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-19  0:12         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21  0:45           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 14:00             ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 21:33               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [2/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: infrastructure of NUMA hotplug emulation shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  7:51     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17 21:10       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  4:14         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  6:27           ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18  5:27             ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18 21:24               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-19  0:32                 ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21  0:48                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21  2:28                     ` [patch 1/2] x86: add numa=possible command line option David Rientjes
2010-11-21  2:28                       ` [patch 2/2] mm: add node hotplug emulation David Rientjes
2010-11-21 17:34                         ` Greg KH
2010-11-21 21:48                           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 23:08                             ` [patch 2/2 v2] " David Rientjes
2010-11-22  0:56                               ` Greg KH
2010-11-28  1:52                                 ` David Rientjes
2010-11-28  5:17                                   ` Greg KH
2010-11-30  0:04                                     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-21 14:26                       ` [patch 1/2] x86: add numa=possible command line option Américo Wang
2010-11-21 21:46                         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-22 15:43                           ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 15:14                     ` [2/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: infrastructure of NUMA hotplug emulation Li, Haicheng
2010-11-21 21:42                       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:19           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [3/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Userland interface to hotplug-add fake offlined nodes shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  8:16   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [4/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Abstract cpu register functions shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [5/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: support cpu probe/release in x86 shaohui.zheng
2010-11-21 14:45   ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22  0:01     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22 15:51       ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 23:29         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [6/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: Fake CPU socket with logical CPU on x86 shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [7/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: extend memory probe interface to support NUMA shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17 18:50   ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 21:18     ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 21:55       ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 22:44         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-17 23:00           ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17 23:17             ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 16:59           ` Aaron Durbin
2010-11-18  4:48       ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-18  6:24         ` Paul Mundt
2010-11-18 21:28           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18 21:31         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-18  4:36     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-19  7:51     ` Shaohui Zheng [this message]
2010-11-19 16:36       ` Dave Hansen
2010-11-17  2:08 ` [8/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator: documentation shaohui.zheng
2010-11-17 23:06   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-11-18  2:31     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-21 15:03   ` Américo Wang
2010-11-21 15:16     ` Li, Haicheng
2010-11-21 23:33     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-22 16:04       ` Américo Wang
2010-11-22 23:23         ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  5:22 ` [0/8,v3] NUMA Hotplug Emulator - Introduction & Feedbacks Paul Mundt
2010-11-19  5:54   ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-11-17  9:26 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-11-18  2:03   ` Shaohui Zheng

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