From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail172.messagelabs.com (mail172.messagelabs.com [216.82.254.3]) by kanga.kvack.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0F56B0071 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:36:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:35:35 -0800 From: Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] deactive invalidated pages Message-Id: <20101123123535.438e9750.akpm@linux-foundation.org> In-Reply-To: <20101123145856.GQ19571@csn.ul.ie> References: <20101122141449.9de58a2c.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20101122210132.be9962c7.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20101123093859.GE19571@csn.ul.ie> <87k4k49jii.fsf@gmail.com> <20101123145856.GQ19571@csn.ul.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org To: Mel Gorman Cc: Ben Gamari , Minchan Kim , linux-mm , LKML , Peter Zijlstra , Rik van Riel , KOSAKI Motohiro , Johannes Weiner , Nick Piggin List-ID: On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:58:56 +0000 Mel Gorman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 09:55:49AM -0500, Ben Gamari wrote: > > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:38:59 +0000, Mel Gorman wrote: > > > > If it's mapped pagecache then the user was being a bit silly (or didn't > > > > know that some other process had mapped the file). In which case we > > > > need to decide what to do - leave the page alone, deactivate it, or > > > > half-deactivate it as this patch does. > > > > > > > > > > What are the odds of an fadvise() user having used mincore() in advance > > > to determine if the page was in use by another process? I would guess > > > "low" so this half-deactivate gives a chance for the page to be promoted > > > again as well as a chance for the flusher threads to clean the page if > > > it really is to be reclaimed. > > > > > Do we really want to make the user jump through such hoops as using > > mincore() just to get the kernel to handle use-once pages properly? > > I would think "no" which is why I support half-deactivating pages so they won't > have to. If the page is page_mapped() then we can assume that some other process is using it and we leave it alone *altogether*. If the page is dirty or under writeback (and !page_mapped()) then we should assume that we should free it asap. The PageReclaim() trick might help with that. I just don't see any argument for moving the page to the head of the inactive LRU as a matter of policy. We can park it there because we can't think of anythnig else to do with it, but it's the wrong place for it. -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@kvack.org. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Fight unfair telecom policy in Canada: sign http://dissolvethecrtc.ca/ Don't email: email@kvack.org