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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Richard Kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/13] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:39:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101124123923.GB10413@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1290597341.2072.456.camel@laptop>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 07:15:41PM +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 12:27 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > plain text document attachment
> > (writeback-speedup-per-bdi-threshold-ramp-up.patch)
> > Reduce the dampening for the control system, yielding faster
> > convergence.
> > 
> > Currently it converges at a snail's pace for slow devices (in order of
> > minutes).  For really fast storage, the convergence speed should be fine.
> > 
> > It makes sense to make it reasonably fast for typical desktops.
> > 
> > After patch, it converges in ~10 seconds for 60MB/s writes and 4GB mem.
> > So expect ~1s for a fast 600MB/s storage under 4GB mem, or ~4s under
> > 16GB mem, which seems reasonable.
> > 
> > $ while true; do grep BdiDirtyThresh /debug/bdi/8:0/stats; sleep 1; done
> > BdiDirtyThresh:            0 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       118748 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       214280 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       303868 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       376528 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       411180 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       448636 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       472260 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       490924 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       499596 kB
> > BdiDirtyThresh:       507068 kB
> > ...
> > DirtyThresh:          530392 kB
> > 
> > CC: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> > CC: Richard Kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>
> > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > ---
> >  mm/page-writeback.c |    2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > --- linux-next.orig/mm/page-writeback.c	2010-11-15 13:08:16.000000000 +0800
> > +++ linux-next/mm/page-writeback.c	2010-11-15 13:08:28.000000000 +0800
> > @@ -125,7 +125,7 @@ static int calc_period_shift(void)
> >  	else
> >  		dirty_total = (vm_dirty_ratio * determine_dirtyable_memory()) /
> >  				100;
> > -	return 2 + ilog2(dirty_total - 1);
> > +	return ilog2(dirty_total - 1) - 1;
> >  }
> >  
> >  /*
> 
> You could actually improve upon this now that you have per-bdi bandwidth
> estimations, simply set the period to (seconds * bandwidth) to get
> convergence in @seconds.

I'd like to, but there is the global vs. bdi discrepancy to be
addressed first :)

How about doing this simple fix first, and then revisit doing per-bdi
vm_dirties after the bandwidth estimation goes upstream?

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-24 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-17  4:27 [PATCH 00/13] IO-less dirty throttling v2 Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 01/13] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 10:34   ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-22  2:01     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 13:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 13:26     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-18 13:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 14:02         ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]     ` <20101129151719.GA30590@localhost>
     [not found]       ` <1291064013.32004.393.camel@laptop>
     [not found]         ` <20101130043735.GA22947@localhost>
     [not found]           ` <1291156522.32004.1359.camel@laptop>
     [not found]             ` <1291156765.32004.1365.camel@laptop>
     [not found]               ` <20101201133818.GA13377@localhost>
2010-12-01 23:03                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-02  1:56                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-05 16:14                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-06  2:42                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-06  9:52                     ` Dmitry
2010-12-06 12:34                       ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 02/13] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 03/13] writeback: per-task rate limit on balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 14:39   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 10:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 04/13] writeback: prevent duplicate balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() calls Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 05/13] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 10:44     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 06/13] writeback: bdi write bandwidth estimation Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17 23:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 23:38       ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17 23:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18  6:51     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:10     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 13:14         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 13:20           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 13:42             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 13:46               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:21                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:31                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:38                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:34                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 07/13] writeback: show bdi write bandwidth in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 08/13] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:30     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 12:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:59         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 09/13] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:39     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-11-24 12:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 10/13] writeback: make reasonable gap between the dirty/background thresholds Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:48     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 11/13] writeback: scale down max throttle bandwidth on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 12/13] writeback: add trace event for balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:41   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 13/13] writeback: make nr_to_write a per-file limit Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:03 ` [PATCH 00/13] IO-less dirty throttling v2 Andrew Morton
2010-11-18  2:06   ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18  2:09     ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18  3:21       ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18  3:34         ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18  7:27           ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18  7:33             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-19  3:11               ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-24 11:12       ` Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-17  3:58 [PATCH 09/13] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang

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