From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Ben Gamari <bgamari@gmail.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] deactive invalidated pages
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:01:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101124180122.GC19571@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikvsEpQM4=fGj5sH7rS74-KfPL5nq0v18v59MOb@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 08:45:20AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> >
> >> I just don't see any argument for moving the page to the head of the
> >> inactive LRU as a matter of policy. We can park it there because we
> >> can't think of anythnig else to do with it, but it's the wrong place
> >> for it.
> >>
> >
> > Is there a better alternative? One thing that springs to mind is that we are
> > not exactly tracking very well what effect these policy changes have. The
> > analysis scripts I have do a reasonable job on tracking reclaim activity
> > (although only as part of the mmtests tarball, I should split them out as
> > a standalone tool) but not the impact - namely minor and major faults. I
> > should sort that out so we can put better reclaim analysis in place.
>
> It can help very much. :)
>
> Also, I need time since I am so busy.
>
No worries, I had a framework in place that made it easy enough to
collect. The necessary information is available in /proc/vmstat in this
case so a tester just needs to record vmstat before and after the target
workload runs. For the reclaim/compaction series, a partial run of the
series and the subsequent report looks like;
proc vmstat: Faults
traceonly reclaimcompact obeysync
Major Faults 84102 6724 7298
Minor Faults 139704394 138778777 138777304
Page ins 4966564 3621280 3569508
Page outs 11283328 7980576 7959352
Swap ins 85800 5647 7062
Swap outs 828488 8799 10565
Series acted as expected - major faults were reduced. Minor faults on on the
high side which I didn't analyse further. Main thing that it's possible to
collect the information on what reclaim is doing and how it affects processes.
I don't have anything in place to evaluate this series unfortunately as
I haven't automated a workload that depends on the behaviour of fadvise.
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Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-24 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-21 14:30 [RFC 1/2] deactive invalidated pages Minchan Kim
2010-11-21 14:30 ` [RFC 2/2] Prevent promotion of page in madvise_dontneed Minchan Kim
2010-11-21 14:38 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-21 16:34 ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-22 0:31 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-22 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 4:57 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 9:50 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 23:49 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-21 15:21 ` [RFC 1/2] deactive invalidated pages Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 13:48 ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 23:48 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 14:49 ` [RFC PATCH] fadvise support in rsync Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 15:35 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 0:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 1/3] Add fadvise interface wrapper Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] Inform kernel of FADV_DONTNEED hint in sender Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 14:49 ` [PATCH 3/3] Inform kernel of FADV_DONTNEED hint in receiver Ben Gamari
2010-11-22 1:17 ` [RFC 1/2] deactive invalidated pages Rik van Riel
2010-11-22 22:14 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 4:52 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 5:01 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 5:23 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 5:22 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 5:45 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 5:48 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 6:05 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 7:15 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 7:44 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 7:53 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 8:02 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 9:43 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 23:32 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 9:38 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 14:55 ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 14:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 20:35 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 22:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 23:45 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-24 18:01 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-11-23 7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 7:40 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 7:42 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 8:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 8:44 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 9:02 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 9:05 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 9:07 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 14:57 ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-24 0:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 9:28 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 23:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-24 10:02 ` Mel Gorman
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