From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 20:11:32 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101202144132.GR2746@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=idNjuptkQuiaOF+GiUDjBaBC9kW370u-041sT@mail.gmail.com>
* Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> [2010-11-29 23:03:31]:
> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:54 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
> <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >> The current implementation of memcg only supports direct reclaim and this
> >> patchset adds the support for background reclaim. Per cgroup background
> >> reclaim is needed which spreads out the memory pressure over longer period
> >> of time and smoothes out the system performance.
> >>
> >> The current implementation is not a stable version, and it crashes sometimes
> >> on my NUMA machine. Before going further for debugging, I would like to start
> >> the discussion and hear the feedbacks of the initial design.
> >
> > I haven't read your code at all. However I agree your claim that memcg
> > also need background reclaim.
>
> Thanks for your comment.
> >
> > So if you post high level design memo, I'm happy.
>
> My high level design is kind of spreading out into each patch, and
> here is the consolidated one. This is nothing more but cluing all the
> commits' messages for the following patches.
>
> "
> The current implementation of memcg only supports direct reclaim and this
> patchset adds the support for background reclaim. Per cgroup background
> reclaim is needed which spreads out the memory pressure over longer period
> of time and smoothes out the system performance.
>
> There is a kswapd kernel thread for each memory node. We add a different kswapd
> for each cgroup. The kswapd is sleeping in the wait queue headed at kswapd_wait
> field of a kswapd descriptor. The kswapd descriptor stores information of node
> or cgroup and it allows the global and per cgroup background reclaim to share
> common reclaim algorithms. The per cgroup kswapd is invoked at mem_cgroup_charge
> when the cgroup's memory usage above a threshold--low_wmark. Then the kswapd
> thread starts to reclaim pages in a priority loop similar to global algorithm.
> The kswapd is done if the usage below a threshold--high_wmark.
>
So the logic is per-node/per-zone/per-cgroup right?
> The per cgroup background reclaim is based on the per cgroup LRU and also adds
> per cgroup watermarks. There are two watermarks including "low_wmark" and
> "high_wmark", and they are calculated based on the limit_in_bytes(hard_limit)
> for each cgroup. Each time the hard_limit is change, the corresponding wmarks
> are re-calculated. Since memory controller charges only user pages, there is
What about memsw limits, do they impact anything, I presume not.
> no need for a "min_wmark". The current calculation of wmarks is a function of
> "memory.min_free_kbytes" which could be adjusted by writing different values
> into the new api. This is added mainly for debugging purpose.
When you say debugging, can you elaborate?
>
> The kswapd() function now is shared between global and per cgroup kswapd thread.
> It is passed in with the kswapd descriptor which contains the information of
> either node or cgroup. Then the new function balance_mem_cgroup_pgdat is invoked
> if it is per cgroup kswapd thread. The balance_mem_cgroup_pgdat performs a
> priority loop similar to global reclaim. In each iteration it invokes
> balance_pgdat_node for all nodes on the system, which is a new function performs
> background reclaim per node. After reclaiming each node, it checks
> mem_cgroup_watermark_ok() and breaks the priority loop if returns true. A per
> memcg zone will be marked as "unreclaimable" if the scanning rate is much
> greater than the reclaiming rate on the per cgroup LRU. The bit is cleared when
> there is a page charged to the cgroup being freed. Kswapd breaks the priority
> loop if all the zones are marked as "unreclaimable".
> "
>
> Also, I am happy to add more descriptions if anything not clear :)
>
Thanks for explaining this in detail, it makes the review easier.
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Balbir
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-05 5:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-30 6:49 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] Add kswapd descriptor Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:15 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-30 8:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:40 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 23:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:15 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 6:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:59 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 8:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:26 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 20:17 ` Ying Han
2010-12-01 0:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:52 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 19:21 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 12:33 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-07 17:28 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 1:24 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 1:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 2:10 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 2:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 12:19 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-08 7:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-07 18:50 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 7:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-08 7:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] Add per cgroup reclaim watermarks Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:44 ` Ying Han
2010-12-01 0:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 14:56 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] Per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 22:01 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 22:00 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 2:25 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 5:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-01 2:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-01 2:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add more per memcg stats Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 18:22 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 6:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 7:03 ` Ying Han
2010-12-02 14:41 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2010-12-07 2:29 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 9:05 ` Ying Han
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