* [PATCH mmotm] thp: transparent hugepage core fixlet
@ 2011-01-11 0:55 Hugh Dickins
2011-01-11 1:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Hugh Dickins @ 2011-01-11 0:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: Andrea Arcangeli, linux-mm
If you configure THP in addition to HUGETLB_PAGE on x86_32 without PAE,
the p?d-folding works out that munlock_vma_pages_range() can crash to
follow_page()'s pud_huge() BUG_ON(flags & FOLL_GET): it needs the same
VM_HUGETLB check already there on the pmd_huge() line. Conveniently,
openSUSE provides a "blogd" which tests this out at startup!
Signed-off-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
---
This massive rework belongs just after thp-transparent-hugepage-core.patch
mm/memory.c | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
--- mmotm.orig/mm/memory.c 2011-01-10 16:31:29.000000000 -0800
+++ mmotm/mm/memory.c 2011-01-10 16:33:16.000000000 -0800
@@ -1288,7 +1288,7 @@ struct page *follow_page(struct vm_area_
pud = pud_offset(pgd, address);
if (pud_none(*pud))
goto no_page_table;
- if (pud_huge(*pud)) {
+ if (pud_huge(*pud) && vma->vm_flags & VM_HUGETLB) {
BUG_ON(flags & FOLL_GET);
page = follow_huge_pud(mm, address, pud, flags & FOLL_WRITE);
goto out;
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* Re: [PATCH mmotm] thp: transparent hugepage core fixlet
2011-01-11 0:55 [PATCH mmotm] thp: transparent hugepage core fixlet Hugh Dickins
@ 2011-01-11 1:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-11 2:29 ` Hugh Dickins
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From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2011-01-11 1:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hugh Dickins; +Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-mm
Hi Hugh,
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 04:55:53PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> If you configure THP in addition to HUGETLB_PAGE on x86_32 without PAE,
> the p?d-folding works out that munlock_vma_pages_range() can crash to
> follow_page()'s pud_huge() BUG_ON(flags & FOLL_GET): it needs the same
> VM_HUGETLB check already there on the pmd_huge() line. Conveniently,
> openSUSE provides a "blogd" which tests this out at startup!
>
> Signed-off-by: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
> ---
> This massive rework belongs just after thp-transparent-hugepage-core.patch
>
> mm/memory.c | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> --- mmotm.orig/mm/memory.c 2011-01-10 16:31:29.000000000 -0800
> +++ mmotm/mm/memory.c 2011-01-10 16:33:16.000000000 -0800
> @@ -1288,7 +1288,7 @@ struct page *follow_page(struct vm_area_
> pud = pud_offset(pgd, address);
> if (pud_none(*pud))
> goto no_page_table;
> - if (pud_huge(*pud)) {
> + if (pud_huge(*pud) && vma->vm_flags & VM_HUGETLB) {
> BUG_ON(flags & FOLL_GET);
> page = follow_huge_pud(mm, address, pud, flags & FOLL_WRITE);
> goto out;
How is THP related to this? pud_trans_huge doesn't exist, if pud_huge
is true, vma is already guaranteed to belong to hugetlbfs without
requiring the additional check.
I added the check to pmd_huge already, there it is needed, but for
pud_huge it isn't as far as I can tell.
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* Re: [PATCH mmotm] thp: transparent hugepage core fixlet
2011-01-11 1:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2011-01-11 2:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-01-11 14:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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From: Hugh Dickins @ 2011-01-11 2:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-mm
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 04:55:53PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>> If you configure THP in addition to HUGETLB_PAGE on x86_32 without PAE,
>> the p?d-folding works out that munlock_vma_pages_range() can crash to
>> follow_page()'s pud_huge() BUG_ON(flags & FOLL_GET): it needs the same
>> VM_HUGETLB check already there on the pmd_huge() line. Conveniently,
>> openSUSE provides a "blogd" which tests this out at startup!
>
> How is THP related to this? pud_trans_huge doesn't exist, if pud_huge
> is true, vma is already guaranteed to belong to hugetlbfs without
> requiring the additional check.
THP puts in pmds that are huge. In this configuration the "folding" is
such that the puds are the pmds. So the pud_huge test passes and
the BUG_ON hits. I hope I've explained that correctly, agreed that
it's confusing!
>
> I added the check to pmd_huge already, there it is needed, but for
> pud_huge it isn't as far as I can tell.
Crashing on that BUG_ON suggests otherwise ;)
Hugh
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* Re: [PATCH mmotm] thp: transparent hugepage core fixlet
2011-01-11 2:29 ` Hugh Dickins
@ 2011-01-11 14:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-11 16:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2011-01-11 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hugh Dickins; +Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-mm
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 06:29:29PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 04:55:53PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> >> If you configure THP in addition to HUGETLB_PAGE on x86_32 without PAE,
> >> the p?d-folding works out that munlock_vma_pages_range() can crash to
> >> follow_page()'s pud_huge() BUG_ON(flags & FOLL_GET): it needs the same
> >> VM_HUGETLB check already there on the pmd_huge() line. Conveniently,
> >> openSUSE provides a "blogd" which tests this out at startup!
> >
> > How is THP related to this? pud_trans_huge doesn't exist, if pud_huge
> > is true, vma is already guaranteed to belong to hugetlbfs without
> > requiring the additional check.
>
> THP puts in pmds that are huge. In this configuration the "folding" is
> such that the puds are the pmds. So the pud_huge test passes and
> the BUG_ON hits. I hope I've explained that correctly, agreed that
> it's confusing!
>
> >
> > I added the check to pmd_huge already, there it is needed, but for
> > pud_huge it isn't as far as I can tell.
>
> Crashing on that BUG_ON suggests otherwise ;)
I think I see what you mean, pgd=pud=pmd with 2 levels only, but if
pud_huge can return 1 on x86_32 without PAE, that sounds like an
architectural bug to me. Why can't pud_huge simply return 0 for
x86_32? Any other place dealing with hugepages and calling pud_huge on
x86 noPAE would be at risk, otherwise, no?
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* Re: [PATCH mmotm] thp: transparent hugepage core fixlet
2011-01-11 14:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2011-01-11 16:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-11 22:59 ` Hugh Dickins
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From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2011-01-11 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hugh Dickins; +Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-mm
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 03:04:21PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> architectural bug to me. Why can't pud_huge simply return 0 for
> x86_32? Any other place dealing with hugepages and calling pud_huge on
> x86 noPAE would be at risk, otherwise, no?
Isn't this better solution?
======
Subject: avoid confusing hugetlbfs code when pmd_trans_huge is set
From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
If pmd is set huge by THP, pud_huge shouldn't return 1 when pud doesn't exist
and it's just a 1:1 bypass over the pmd (like it happens on 32bit x86 because
there are at most 2 or 3 level of pagetables). Only pmd_huge can return 1.
Signed-off-by: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
---
diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c b/arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c
--- a/arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c
+++ b/arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c
@@ -227,7 +227,15 @@ int pmd_huge(pmd_t pmd)
int pud_huge(pud_t pud)
{
+#ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
return !!(pud_val(pud) & _PAGE_PSE);
+#else
+ /*
+ * pud is a bypass with 2 or 3 level pagetables, only pmd_huge
+ * can return 1.
+ */
+ return 0;
+#endif
}
struct page *
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* Re: [PATCH mmotm] thp: transparent hugepage core fixlet
2011-01-11 16:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
@ 2011-01-11 22:59 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-01-12 2:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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From: Hugh Dickins @ 2011-01-11 22:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Andrea Arcangeli; +Cc: Andi Kleen, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, Andrew Morton, linux-mm
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 03:04:21PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > architectural bug to me. Why can't pud_huge simply return 0 for
> > x86_32? Any other place dealing with hugepages and calling pud_huge on
> > x86 noPAE would be at risk, otherwise, no?
>
> Isn't this better solution?
[Better solution than my patch to follow_page() in mmotm, to fix crash
with Transparent Huge Pages by duplicating Andrea's pmd_huge VM_HUGETLB
check to the pud_huge line too.]
The truth is, I'm sure one of the solutions is better than the other,
but I'm too confused by p?d folding to know which is which ;)
Certainly I don't oppose your patch as a replacement for mine,
if you're sure yours is better.
There are only two places which are using pud_huge() anyway:
follow_page() and apply_to_pmd_range(). Is the latter's
BUG_ON(pud_huge) safe? Safe in the THP world?
And I never quite understood why we have both pmd_huge and pmd_large,
pud_huge and pud_large.
There are answers to these questions, but it would take me hours and
hours of easily-confused research (across several arches) to decide.
I'm hoping someone else has a surer grasp: Andi introduced pud_huge(),
and Jeremy is the most active in the pagetable layers nowadays -
perhaps they can tell us more quickly.
Hugh
>
> ======
> Subject: avoid confusing hugetlbfs code when pmd_trans_huge is set
>
> From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
>
> If pmd is set huge by THP, pud_huge shouldn't return 1 when pud doesn't exist
> and it's just a 1:1 bypass over the pmd (like it happens on 32bit x86 because
> there are at most 2 or 3 level of pagetables). Only pmd_huge can return 1.
>
> Signed-off-by: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
> ---
>
> diff --git a/arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c b/arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c
> --- a/arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/mm/hugetlbpage.c
> @@ -227,7 +227,15 @@ int pmd_huge(pmd_t pmd)
>
> int pud_huge(pud_t pud)
> {
> +#ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
> return !!(pud_val(pud) & _PAGE_PSE);
> +#else
> + /*
> + * pud is a bypass with 2 or 3 level pagetables, only pmd_huge
> + * can return 1.
> + */
> + return 0;
> +#endif
> }
>
> struct page *
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* Re: [PATCH mmotm] thp: transparent hugepage core fixlet
2011-01-11 22:59 ` Hugh Dickins
@ 2011-01-12 2:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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From: Andrea Arcangeli @ 2011-01-12 2:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hugh Dickins; +Cc: Andi Kleen, Jeremy Fitzhardinge, Andrew Morton, linux-mm
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 02:59:43PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2011, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 03:04:21PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > > architectural bug to me. Why can't pud_huge simply return 0 for
> > > x86_32? Any other place dealing with hugepages and calling pud_huge on
> > > x86 noPAE would be at risk, otherwise, no?
> >
> > Isn't this better solution?
>
> [Better solution than my patch to follow_page() in mmotm, to fix crash
> with Transparent Huge Pages by duplicating Andrea's pmd_huge VM_HUGETLB
> check to the pud_huge line too.]
>
> The truth is, I'm sure one of the solutions is better than the other,
> but I'm too confused by p?d folding to know which is which ;)
>
> Certainly I don't oppose your patch as a replacement for mine,
> if you're sure yours is better.
>
> There are only two places which are using pud_huge() anyway:
> follow_page() and apply_to_pmd_range(). Is the latter's
> BUG_ON(pud_huge) safe? Safe in the THP world?
The latter BUG_ON should be safe in THP world, there's a pmd_huge bug
on too so it can't be a problem in THP world.
> And I never quite understood why we have both pmd_huge and pmd_large,
> pud_huge and pud_large.
>
> There are answers to these questions, but it would take me hours and
> hours of easily-confused research (across several arches) to decide.
>
> I'm hoping someone else has a surer grasp: Andi introduced pud_huge(),
> and Jeremy is the most active in the pagetable layers nowadays -
> perhaps they can tell us more quickly.
I'd like their opinion too but for exactly the same reason why you
asked yourself if the latter BUG_ON is safe, I think my patch from
practical prospective reduces the risk.
When THP uses pmd_mkhuge it's counter intuitive that pud_huge returns
1, and there's no benefit to that at all other than risking troubles
like this one. In fact a branch and a block of follow_page is
eliminated at compile time by my patch (as opposed your patch adds one
more branch and can't eliminate a block of code if the second branch
would be taken but we know it can't).
I consider this an arch bug, not common code issue. This is the THP
modifications to the code and I didn't expect having to alter the
pud_huge check in addition to the below one. I thought this shall be
enough if the arch is correct (and optimal).
@@ -1273,11 +1301,32 @@ struct page *follow_page(struct vm_area_
pmd = pmd_offset(pud, address);
if (pmd_none(*pmd))
goto no_page_table;
- if (pmd_huge(*pmd)) {
+ if (pmd_huge(*pmd) && vma->vm_flags & VM_HUGETLB) {
BUG_ON(flags & FOLL_GET);
page = follow_huge_pmd(mm, address, pmd, flags &
FOLL_WRITE);
goto out;
I think the x86 3level should work ok with follow_page_pmd (it's
basically identical to follow_page_pud so it won't notice the
difference) so I hope it doesn't break anything, and it will speedup
follow_page too (even when THP is off).
Across the whole tree if you grep for pmd_offset, you'll find all the
places that you've to care for THP, I'd like to still not having to
care about the result of pud_offset (having to care for pmd_offset is
more than enough ;).
Other archs implementing pud_huge should also return 0 if there are
only 3 levels, if they introduce THP, this will have the benefit of
optimizing follow_page when THP is off as well for them.
Your patch is ok if this will not be considered an arch bug (I think
to avoid mistakes pud_huge should be implemented by pgtable-nopud.h
but that's a little bigger cleanup I didn't do myself yet).
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