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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: vmscan: Stop reclaim/compaction earlier due to insufficient progress if !__GFP_REPEAT
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:22:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110217142209.8736cca1.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110216095048.GA4473@csn.ul.ie>

On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 09:50:49 +0000
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:

> should_continue_reclaim() for reclaim/compaction allows scanning to continue
> even if pages are not being reclaimed until the full list is scanned. In
> terms of allocation success, this makes sense but potentially it introduces
> unwanted latency for high-order allocations such as transparent hugepages
> and network jumbo frames that would prefer to fail the allocation attempt
> and fallback to order-0 pages.  Worse, there is a potential that the full
> LRU scan will clear all the young bits, distort page aging information and
> potentially push pages into swap that would have otherwise remained resident.

afaict the patch affects order-0 allocations as well.  What are the
implications of this?

Also, what might be the downsides of this change, and did you test for
them?

> This patch will stop reclaim/compaction if no pages were reclaimed in the
> last SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX pages that were considered.

a) Why SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX?  Is (SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX+7) better or worse?

b) The sentence doesn't seem even vaguely accurate.  shrink_zone()
   will scan vastly more than SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX pages before calling
   should_continue_reclaim().  Confused.

c) The patch doesn't "stop reclaim/compaction" fully.  It stops it
   against one zone.  reclaim will then advance on to any other
   eligible zones.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-17 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-09 15:46 [patch] vmscan: fix zone shrinking exit when scan work is done Johannes Weiner
2011-02-09 15:54 ` Kent Overstreet
2011-02-09 16:46 ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-09 18:28   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-09 20:05     ` Andrew Morton
2011-02-10 10:21     ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-10 10:41       ` Michal Hocko
2011-02-10 12:48       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-10 13:33         ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-10 14:14           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-10 14:58             ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-16  9:50               ` [PATCH] mm: vmscan: Stop reclaim/compaction earlier due to insufficient progress if !__GFP_REPEAT Mel Gorman
2011-02-16 10:13                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-16 11:22                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-16 14:44                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-16 12:03                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-02-16 12:14                 ` Rik van Riel
2011-02-16 12:38                 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-02-16 23:26                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-02-17 22:22                 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2011-02-18 12:22                   ` Mel Gorman
2011-02-10  4:04 ` [patch] vmscan: fix zone shrinking exit when scan work is done Minchan Kim

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