From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Yanmin Zhang <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
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Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/17] arm: mmu_gather rework
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:59:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110228115907.GB492@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1298893487.2428.10537.camel@twins>
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:44:47PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Right, so the normal case is:
>
> unmap_region()
> tlb_gather_mmu()
The fullmm argument is important here as it specifies the mode.
tlb_gather_mmu(, 0)
> unmap_vmas()
> for (; vma; vma = vma->vm_next)
> unmao_page_range()
> tlb_start_vma() -> flush cache range
> zap_*_range()
> ptep_get_and_clear_full() -> batch/track external tlbs
> tlb_remove_tlb_entry() -> batch/track external tlbs
> tlb_remove_page() -> track range/batch page
> tlb_end_vma() -> flush tlb range
tlb_finish_mmu() -> nothing
>
> [ for architectures that have hardware page table walkers
> concurrent faults can still load the page tables ]
>
> free_pgtables()
tlb_gather_mmu(, 1)
> while (vma)
> unlink_*_vma()
> free_*_range()
> *_free_tlb()
> tlb_finish_mmu()
tlb_finish_mmu() -> flush tlb mm
>
> free vmas
So this is all fine. Note that we *don't* use the range stuff here.
> Now, if we want to track ranges _and_ have hardware page table walkers
> (ARM seems to be one such), we must flush TLBs at tlb_end_vma() because
> flush_tlb_range() requires a vma pointer (ARM and TILE actually use more
> than ->vm_mm), and on tlb_finish_mmu() issue a full mm wide invalidate
> because the hardware walker could have re-populated the cache after
> clearing the PTEs but before freeing the page tables.
No. The hardware walker won't re-populate the TLB after the page table
entries have been cleared - where would it get this information from if
not from the page tables?
> What ARM does is it retains the last vma pointer and tracks
> pte_free_tlb() range and uses that in tlb_finish_mmu(), which is a tad
> hacky.
It may be hacky but then the TLB shootdown interface is hacky too. We
don't keep the vma around to re-use after tlb_end_vma() - if you think
that then you misunderstand what's going on. The vma pointer is kept
around as a cheap way of allowing tlb_finish_mmu() to distinguish
between the unmap_region() mode and the shift_arg_pages() mode.
> Mostly because of shift_arg_pages(), where we have:
>
> shift_arg_pages()
> tlb_gather_mmu()
tlb_gather_mmu(, 0)
> free_*_range()
> tlb_finish_mmu()
tlb_finish_mmu() does nothing without the ARM change.
tlb_finish_mmu() -> flush_tlb_mm() with the ARM change.
And this is where the bug was - these page table entries could find
their way into the TLB and persist after they've been torn down.
> For which ARM now punts and does a full tlb invalidate (no vma pointer).
> But also because it drags along that vma pointer, which might not at all
> match the range its actually going to invalidate (and hence its vm_flags
> might not accurately reflect things -- at worst more expensive than
> needed).
Where do you get that from? Where exactly in the above code would the
VMA pointer get set? In this case, it will be NULL, so we do a
flush_tlb_mm() for this case. We have to - we don't have any VMA to
deal with at this point.
> The reason I wanted flush_tlb_range() to take an mm_struct and not the
> current vm_area_struct is because we can avoid doing the
> flush_tlb_range() from tlb_end_vma() and delay the thing until
> tlb_finish_mmu() without having to resort to such games as above. We
> could simply track the full range over all VMAs and free'd page-tables
> and do one range invalidate.
No. That's stupid. Consider the case where you have to loop one page
at a time over the range (we do on ARM.) If we ended up with your
suggestion above, that means we could potentially have to loop 4K at a
time over 3GB of address space. That's idiotic when we have an
instruction which can flush the entire TLB for a particular thread.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-28 12:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-02-17 16:23 [PATCH 00/17] mm: mmu_gather rework Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 01/17] tile: Fix __pte_free_tlb Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 02/17] mm: mmu_gather rework Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-10 15:50 ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-16 18:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-16 20:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-03-16 21:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-21 8:47 ` Avi Kivity
2011-04-01 12:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-01 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-04-02 0:07 ` David Miller
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 03/17] powerpc: " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 04/17] sparc: " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 05/17] s390: " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 06/17] arm: " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-24 16:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25 18:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25 19:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-25 19:59 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-02-25 21:51 ` Russell King
2011-02-28 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-28 11:59 ` Russell King [this message]
2011-02-28 12:06 ` Russell King
2011-02-28 12:06 ` Russell King
2011-02-28 12:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-28 12:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-28 12:28 ` Russell King
2011-02-28 12:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-28 12:50 ` Russell King
2011-02-28 13:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-28 14:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-28 14:57 ` Russell King
2011-02-28 15:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-28 15:15 ` Russell King
2011-03-01 22:05 ` Chris Metcalf
2011-03-02 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 07/17] sh: " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 08/17] um: " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 09/17] ia64: " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 10/17] mm: Now that all old mmu_gather code is gone, remove the storage Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 11/17] mm, powerpc: Move the RCU page-table freeing into generic code Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 12/17] s390: use generic RCP page-table freeing Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 13/17] mm: Extended batches for generic mmu_gather Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 14/17] mm: Provide generic range tracking and flushing Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 15/17] arm, mm: Convert arm to generic tlb Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 16/17] ia64, mm: Convert ia64 " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 16:23 ` [PATCH 17/17] sh, mm: Convert sh " Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 17:36 ` [PATCH 00/17] mm: mmu_gather rework Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-17 17:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
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