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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [patch -mm] oom: avoid deferring oom killer if exiting task is being traced
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:40:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110314174019.GA14328@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1103121715030.10317@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On 03/12, David Rientjes wrote:
>
> The oom killer naturally defers killing anything if it finds an eligible
> task that is already exiting and has yet to detach its ->mm.  This avoids
> unnecessarily killing tasks when one is already in the exit path and may
> free enough memory that the oom killer is no longer needed.  This is
> detected by PF_EXITING since threads that have already detached its ->mm
> are no longer considered at all.

So, this is on top of oom-prevent-unnecessary-oom-kills-or-kernel-panics.patch

I still can't understand which problems that patch tries to solve. Could
you explain why this patch helps in details?

Speaking of "already exiting and has yet to detach its ->mm", did you look
at "[PATCH 2/3] oom: select_bad_process: improve the PF_EXITING check" ?

> The problem with always deferring when a thread is PF_EXITING, however,
> is that it may never actually exit when being traced, specifically if
> another task is tracing it with PTRACE_O_TRACEEXIT.  The oom killer does
> not want to defer in this case since there is no guarantee that thread
> will ever exit without intervention.

IOW, you are trying to fight with the test-case I sent,

> +			} else {
> +				/*
> +				 * If this task is not being ptraced on exit,
> +				 * then wait for it to finish before killing
> +				 * some other task unnecessarily.
> +				 */
> +				if (!(task_ptrace(p->group_leader) &
> +							PT_TRACE_EXIT))
> +					return ERR_PTR(-1UL);

No, this can't help afaics. It is trivial to change the exploit and
get the same result.

Perhaps I missed something, I didn't read this patch carefully. Will
try to do later.

However. could you please answer my question above?


Also. We have the serious and easily exploitable bugs, I think we
should fix them first. I'll report more details later today.

Oleg.

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      reply	other threads:[~2011-03-14 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-01 19:09 [patch] oom: prevent unnecessary oom kills or kernel panics David Rientjes
2011-03-03  1:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-03 19:53   ` David Rientjes
2011-03-06 11:14     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-06 22:06       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-08  0:24         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-08  2:01         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-08 13:42   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-08 23:57     ` David Rientjes
2011-03-09 10:36       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-09 11:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-09 20:32         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-10 12:05           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 15:40             ` [PATCH 0/1] Was: " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 15:41               ` [PATCH 1/1] oom_kill_task: mark every thread as TIF_MEMDIE Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-13  1:08                 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-10 16:36               ` [PATCH 0/1] select_bad_process: improve the PF_EXITING check Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 16:37                 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 16:40                 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 17:18                   ` [PATCH v2 " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-10 17:19                     ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-13  1:06             ` [patch] oom: prevent unnecessary oom kills or kernel panics David Rientjes
2011-03-09 23:19       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-11 19:45         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-12 12:34           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-12 13:43             ` [PATCH 0/3] oom: TIF_MEMDIE/PF_EXITING fixes Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-12 13:44               ` [PATCH 1/3] oom: oom_kill_task: mark every thread as TIF_MEMDIE Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-13  1:14                 ` David Rientjes
2011-03-12 13:44               ` [PATCH 2/3] oom: select_bad_process: improve the PF_EXITING check Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-12 13:44               ` [PATCH 3/3] oom: select_bad_process: use same_thread_group() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-12 19:40               ` [PATCH 0/3] oom: TIF_MEMDIE/PF_EXITING fixes Hugh Dickins
2011-03-13  8:53                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-13 21:27                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 19:04                   ` [PATCH 0/3 for 2.6.38] oom: fixes Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 19:04                     ` [PATCH 1/3 for 2.6.38] oom: oom_kill_process: don't set TIF_MEMDIE if !p->mm Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 19:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-14 20:31                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 20:32                         ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 19:12                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-15 19:51                             ` David Rientjes
2011-03-14 20:22                       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 18:53                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-15 19:54                           ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 21:16                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 19:05                     ` [PATCH 2/3 for 2.6.38] oom: select_bad_process: ignore TIF_MEMDIE zombies Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 20:50                       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-14 19:05                     ` [PATCH 3/3 for 2.6.38] oom: oom_kill_process: fix the child_points logic Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-14 20:41                       ` David Rientjes
2011-03-15 19:21                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-13 11:36               ` [PATCH 0/3] oom: TIF_MEMDIE/PF_EXITING fixes KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-13  1:11             ` [patch] oom: prevent unnecessary oom kills or kernel panics David Rientjes
2011-03-13  1:15               ` [patch -mm] oom: avoid deferring oom killer if exiting task is being traced David Rientjes
2011-03-14 17:40                 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]

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