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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] mm: Implement IO-less balance_dirty_pages()
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 15:31:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110316193144.GE13562@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110316191021.GB4456@quack.suse.cz>

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 08:10:21PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 16-03-11 12:53:31, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 11:31:13PM +0100, Jan Kara wrote:
> > [..]
> > > +/*
> > > + * balance_dirty_pages() must be called by processes which are generating dirty
> > > + * data.  It looks at the number of dirty pages in the machine and will force
> > > + * the caller to perform writeback if the system is over `vm_dirty_ratio'.
> > > + * If we're over `background_thresh' then the writeback threads are woken to
> > > + * perform some writeout.
> > > + */
> > > +static void balance_dirty_pages(struct address_space *mapping,
> > > +				unsigned long write_chunk)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct backing_dev_info *bdi = mapping->backing_dev_info;
> > > +	struct balance_waiter bw;
> > > +	struct dirty_limit_state st;
> > > +	int dirty_exceeded = check_dirty_limits(bdi, &st);
> > > +
> > > +	if (dirty_exceeded < DIRTY_MAY_EXCEED_LIMIT ||
> > > +	    (dirty_exceeded == DIRTY_MAY_EXCEED_LIMIT &&
> > > +	     !bdi_task_limit_exceeded(&st, current))) {
> > > +		if (bdi->dirty_exceeded &&
> > > +		    dirty_exceeded < DIRTY_MAY_EXCEED_LIMIT)
> > > +			bdi->dirty_exceeded = 0;
> > >  		/*
> > > -		 * Increase the delay for each loop, up to our previous
> > > -		 * default of taking a 100ms nap.
> > > +		 * In laptop mode, we wait until hitting the higher threshold
> > > +		 * before starting background writeout, and then write out all
> > > +		 * the way down to the lower threshold.  So slow writers cause
> > > +		 * minimal disk activity.
> > > +		 *
> > > +		 * In normal mode, we start background writeout at the lower
> > > +		 * background_thresh, to keep the amount of dirty memory low.
> > >  		 */
> > > -		pause <<= 1;
> > > -		if (pause > HZ / 10)
> > > -			pause = HZ / 10;
> > > +		if (!laptop_mode && dirty_exceeded == DIRTY_EXCEED_BACKGROUND)
> > > +			bdi_start_background_writeback(bdi);
> > > +		return;
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > > -	/* Clear dirty_exceeded flag only when no task can exceed the limit */
> > > -	if (!min_dirty_exceeded && bdi->dirty_exceeded)
> > > -		bdi->dirty_exceeded = 0;
> > > +	if (!bdi->dirty_exceeded)
> > > +		bdi->dirty_exceeded = 1;
> > >  
> > > -	if (writeback_in_progress(bdi))
> > > -		return;
> > > +	trace_writeback_balance_dirty_pages_waiting(bdi, write_chunk);
> > > +	/* Kick flusher thread to start doing work if it isn't already */
> > > +	bdi_start_background_writeback(bdi);
> > >  
> > > +	bw.bw_wait_pages = write_chunk;
> > > +	bw.bw_task = current;
> > > +	spin_lock(&bdi->balance_lock);
> > >  	/*
> > > -	 * In laptop mode, we wait until hitting the higher threshold before
> > > -	 * starting background writeout, and then write out all the way down
> > > -	 * to the lower threshold.  So slow writers cause minimal disk activity.
> > > -	 *
> > > -	 * In normal mode, we start background writeout at the lower
> > > -	 * background_thresh, to keep the amount of dirty memory low.
> > > +	 * First item? Need to schedule distribution of IO completions among
> > > +	 * items on balance_list
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (list_empty(&bdi->balance_list)) {
> > > +		bdi->written_start = bdi_stat_sum(bdi, BDI_WRITTEN);
> > > +		/* FIXME: Delay should be autotuned based on dev throughput */
> > > +		schedule_delayed_work(&bdi->balance_work, HZ/10);
> > > +	}
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Add work to the balance list, from now on the structure is handled
> > > +	 * by distribute_page_completions()
> > > +	 */
> > > +	list_add_tail(&bw.bw_list, &bdi->balance_list);
> > > +	bdi->balance_waiters++;
> > Had a query.
> > 
> > - What makes sure that flusher thread will not stop writing back till all
> >   the waiters on the bdi have been woken up. IIUC, flusher thread will 
> >   stop once global background ratio is with-in limit. Is it possible that
> >   there are still some waiter on some bdi waiting for more pages to finish
> >   writeback and that might not happen for sometime. 
>   Yes, this can possibly happen but once distribute_page_completions()
> gets called (after a given time), it will notice that we are below limits
> and wake all waiters.
> Under normal circumstances, we should have a decent
> estimate when distribute_page_completions() needs to be called and that
> should be long before flusher thread finishes it's work. But in cases when
> a bdi has only a small share of global dirty limit, what you describe can
> possibly happen.

So if a bdi share is small then it can happen that global background
threshold is fine but per bdi threshold is not. That means
task_bdi_threshold is also above limit and IIUC, distribute_page_completion()
will not wake up the waiter until bdi_task_limit_exceeded() is in control.

        /*
         * Wake tasks that might have gotten below their limits and
         * compute
         * the number of pages we wait for
         */
        list_for_each_entry_safe(waiter, tmpw, &bdi->balance_list,
bw_list) {
                if (dirty_exceeded == DIRTY_MAY_EXCEED_LIMIT &&
                    !bdi_task_limit_exceeded(&st, waiter->bw_task))
                        balance_waiter_done(bdi, waiter);
                else if (waiter->bw_wait_pages < min_pages)
                        min_pages = waiter->bw_wait_pages;
        }


So it can happen that global background threshold is under limit but a
specific task bdi threshold is not and I am failing to see who will
wake up the task in that situation.

Thanks
Vivek 

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-16 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-08 22:31 [PATCH RFC 0/5] IO-less balance_dirty_pages() v2 (simple approach) Jan Kara
2011-03-08 22:31 ` [PATCH 1/5] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Jan Kara
2011-03-08 22:31 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm: Properly reflect task dirty limits in dirty_exceeded logic Jan Kara
2011-03-09 21:02   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-14 20:44     ` Jan Kara
2011-03-15 15:21       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-08 22:31 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Implement IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Jan Kara
2011-03-10  0:07   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-14 20:48     ` Jan Kara
2011-03-15 15:23       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-16 21:26         ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-03-16 22:53           ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-03-16 16:53   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-16 19:10     ` Jan Kara
2011-03-16 19:31       ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2011-03-16 19:58         ` Jan Kara
2011-03-16 20:22           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-08 22:31 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: Remove low limit from sync_writeback_pages() Jan Kara
2011-03-08 22:31 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: Autotune interval between distribution of page completions Jan Kara
2011-03-17 15:46 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] IO-less balance_dirty_pages() v2 (simple approach) Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-03-17 15:51   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-17 16:24     ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-03-17 16:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-17 17:32   ` Jan Kara
2011-03-17 18:55     ` Curt Wohlgemuth
2011-03-17 22:56       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-03-18 14:30 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-03-22 21:43   ` Jan Kara
2011-03-23  4:41     ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-25 12:59       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-03-25 13:44     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-03-25 23:05       ` Jan Kara
2011-03-28  2:44         ` Wu Fengguang
2011-03-28 15:08           ` Jan Kara
2011-03-29  1:44             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-03-29  2:14           ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-29  2:41             ` Wu Fengguang
2011-03-29  5:59               ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-29  7:31                 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-03-29  7:52                   ` Wu Fengguang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-04  1:38 [RFC PATCH 0/5] IO-less balance dirty pages Jan Kara
2011-02-04  1:38 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: Implement IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Jan Kara
2011-02-04 13:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-11 14:56     ` Jan Kara
2011-02-04 13:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-04 13:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-11 15:46     ` Jan Kara
2011-02-22 15:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-04 13:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-02-11 14:56     ` Jan Kara

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