From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Alex Villac??s Lasso <avillaci@fiec.espol.edu.ec>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
avillaci@ceibo.fiec.espol.edu.ec,
bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 31142] New: Large write to USB stick freezes unrelated tasks for a long time
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:37:42 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110321163742.GA24244@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110321134832.GC5719@random.random>
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 02:48:32PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:41:49AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > The check is at the wrong level I believe because it misses NFS pages which
> > will still get queued for IO which can block waiting on a request to complete.
>
> But for example ->migratepage won't block at all for swapcache... it's
> just a pointer for migrate_page... so I didnt' want to skip what could
> be nonblocking, it just makes migrate less reliable for no good in
> some case. The fallback case is very likely blocking instead so I only
> returned -EBUSY there.
>
Fair point.
> Best would be to pass a sync/nonblock param to migratepage(nonblock)
> so that nfs_migrate_page can pass "nonblock" instead of "false" to
> nfs_find_and_lock_request.
>
I had considered this but thought passing in sync to things like
migrate_page() that ignored it looked a little ugly.
> > sync should be bool.
>
> That's better thanks.
>
> > It's overkill to return EBUSY just because we failed to get a lock which could
> > be released very quickly. If we left rc as -EAGAIN it would retry again.
> > The worst case scenario is that the current process is the holder of the
> > lock and the loop is pointless but this is a relatively rare situation
> > (other than Hugh's loopback test aside which seems to be particularly good
> > at triggering that situation).
>
> This change was only meant to possibly avoid some cpu waste in the
> tight loop, not really "blocking" related so I'm sure ok to drop it
> for now. The page lock holder better to be quick because with sync=0
> the tight loop will retry real fast. If the holder blocks we're not so
> smart at retrying in a tight loop but for now it's ok.
>
Ok.
> > > goto move_newpage;
> > >
> > > @@ -686,7 +695,11 @@ static int unmap_and_move(new_page_t get
> > > BUG_ON(charge);
> > >
> > > if (PageWriteback(page)) {
> > > - if (!force || !sync)
> > > + if (!sync) {
> > > + rc = -EBUSY;
> > > + goto uncharge;
> > > + }
> > > + if (!force)
> > > goto uncharge;
> >
> > Where as this is ok because if the page is being written back, it's fairly
> > unlikely it'll get cleared quickly enough for the retry loop to make sense.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Because of the NFS pages and being a bit aggressive about using -EBUSY,
> > how about the following instead? (build tested only unfortunately)
>
> I tested my version below but I think one needs udf with lots of dirty
> pages plus the usb to trigger this which I don't have setup
> immediately.
>
> > @@ -586,18 +586,23 @@ static int move_to_new_page(struct page *newpage, struct page *page,
> > mapping = page_mapping(page);
> > if (!mapping)
> > rc = migrate_page(mapping, newpage, page);
> > - else if (mapping->a_ops->migratepage)
> > - /*
> > - * Most pages have a mapping and most filesystems
> > - * should provide a migration function. Anonymous
> > - * pages are part of swap space which also has its
> > - * own migration function. This is the most common
> > - * path for page migration.
> > - */
> > - rc = mapping->a_ops->migratepage(mapping,
> > - newpage, page);
> > - else
> > - rc = fallback_migrate_page(mapping, newpage, page);
> > + else {
> > + /* Do not writeback pages if !sync */
> > + if (PageDirty(page) && !sync)
> > + rc = -EBUSY;
>
> I think it's better to at least change it to:
>
> if (PageDirty(page) && !sync && mapping->a_ops->migratepage != migrate_page))
>
> I wasn't sure how to handle noblocking ->migratepage for swapcache and
> tmpfs but probably the above check is a good enough approximation.
>
It's a good enough approximation. It's a little ugly but I don't think
it's much uglier than passing in unused parameters to migrate_page().
> Before sending my patch I thought of adding a "sync" parameter to
> ->migratepage(..., sync/nonblock) but then the patch become
> bigger... and I just wanted to know if this was the problem or not so
> I deferred it.
>
I deferred it for similar reasons. It was becoming a much larger change
than should be necessary for the fix.
> If we're sure that all migratepage blocks except for things like
> swapcache/tmpfs or other not-filebacked things that defines it to
> migrate_page, we're pretty well covered by adding a check like above
> migratepage == migrate_page and maybe we don't need to add a
> "sync/nonblock" parameter to ->migratepage(). For example the
> buffer_migrate_page can block too in lock_buffer.
>
Agreed.
> This is the patch I'm trying with the addition of the above check and
> some comment space/tab issue cleanup.
>
Nothing bad jumped out at me. Lets see how it gets on with testing.
Thanks
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Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2011-03-15 20:53 ` [Bugme-new] [Bug 31142] New: Large write to USB stick freezes unrelated tasks for a long time Andrew Morton
2011-03-15 22:53 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-15 23:19 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-16 15:25 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-16 22:02 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-17 21:27 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-17 21:47 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-17 22:11 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-17 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-18 11:13 ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-18 12:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-18 18:05 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-19 13:46 ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-19 16:04 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-19 23:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-21 9:41 ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-21 13:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-21 15:22 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-21 15:36 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-21 15:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-21 16:37 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-03-21 17:05 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-21 20:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-21 23:35 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-22 11:20 ` Mel Gorman
2011-03-22 15:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-22 20:34 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-03-22 21:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-23 0:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-03-23 16:51 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-04-04 15:37 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-04-08 19:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-04-08 20:06 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-04-12 16:27 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-04-14 17:25 ` Alex Villacís Lasso
2011-04-14 17:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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