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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: update documentation to describe usage_in_bytes
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:48:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110328094820.GC5693@tiehlicka.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110328181127.b8a2a1c5.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Mon 28-03-11 18:11:27, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:43:42 +0200
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 28-03-11 13:25:50, Daisuke Nishimura wrote:
> > > From: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
[...]
> > > +5.5 usage_in_bytes
> > > +
> > > +As described in 2.1, memory cgroup uses res_counter for tracking and limiting
> > > +the memory usage. memory.usage_in_bytes shows the current res_counter usage for
> > > +memory, and DOESN'T show a actual usage of RSS and Cache. It is usually bigger
> > > +than the actual usage for a performance improvement reason. 
> > 
> > Isn't an explicit mention about caching charges better?
> > 
> 
> It's difficult to distinguish which is spec. and which is implemnation details...

Sure. At least commit log should contain the implementation details IMO,
though.

> 
> My one here ;)
> ==
> 5.5 usage_in_bytes
> 
> For efficiency, as other kernel components, memory cgroup uses some optimization to
> avoid unnecessary cacheline false sharing. usage_in_bytes is affected by the
> method and doesn't show 'exact' value of usage, it's an fuzz value for efficient
> access. (Of course, when necessary, it's synchronized.)
> In usual, the value (RSS+CACHE) in memory.stat shows more exact value. IOW,

- In usual, the value (RSS+CACHE) in memory.stat shows more exact value. IOW,
+ (RSS+CACHE) value from memory.stat shows more exact value and should be used
+ by userspace. IOW,

?

> usage_in_bytes is less exact than memory.stat. The error will be larger on the larger
> hardwares which have many cpus and tasks.
> ==
> 
> Hmm ?

Looks much better.

Thanks
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-28  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-18 15:25 cgroup: real meaning of memory.usage_in_bytes Michal Hocko
2011-03-18 15:29 ` Michal Hocko
2011-03-21  9:34 ` Michal Hocko
2011-03-21 10:24   ` [PATCH] memcg: consider per-cpu stock reserves when returning RES_USAGE for _MEM Michal Hocko
2011-03-22  0:10     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-22  1:47       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2011-03-22  7:31         ` Michal Hocko
2011-03-23  0:27           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2011-03-23  4:35             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-27 23:55               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2011-03-28  4:25                 ` [PATCH] memcg: update documentation to describe usage_in_bytes Daisuke Nishimura
2011-03-28  7:43                   ` Michal Hocko
2011-03-28  9:11                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-28  9:48                       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2011-03-28 10:31                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-29  1:15                           ` [PATCH v2] " Daisuke Nishimura
2011-03-29  1:24                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-29  7:21                             ` Michal Hocko
2011-04-19 12:14                               ` Michal Hocko
2011-04-19 23:24                                 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2011-03-21 17:22   ` cgroup: real meaning of memory.usage_in_bytes Ying Han
2011-03-22  7:35     ` Michal Hocko
2011-03-22 17:06       ` Ying Han
2011-03-23 14:26         ` Michal Hocko

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