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From: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrey Vagin <avagin@openvz.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority"
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 10:10:29 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110328131029.GN19007@uudg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110328124025.GC1892@barrios-desktop>

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 09:40:25PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
| On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 02:28:27PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
| > On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 21:21 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
| > > Hi Peter,
| > > 
| > > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:51:36AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
| > > > On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 00:27 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
| > > > > 
| > > > > At that time, I thought that routine is meaningless in non-RT scheduler.
| > > > > So I Cced Peter but don't get the answer.
| > > > > I just want to confirm it. 
| > > > 
| > > > Probably lost somewhere in the mess that is my inbox :/, what is the
| > > > full question?
| > > 
| > > The question is we had a routine which change rt.time_slice with HZ to 
| > > accelarate task exit. But when we applied 93b43fa5508, we found it isn't effective
| > > any more about normal task. So we removed it. Is it right?
| > 
| > rt.time_slice is only relevant to SCHED_RR, since you seem to use
| > SCHED_FIFO (which runs for as long as the task is runnable), its
| > completely irrelevant.
| > 
| > > And Kosaki is about to revert 93b43fa5508 to find out the problem of this thread
| > > and Luis said he has a another solution to replace 93b43fa5508. 
| > > If rt.time_slice handleing is effective, we should restore it until Luis's patch
| > > will be merged.
| > 
| > Right, so only SCHED_RR is affected by time_slice, it will be
| > decremented on tick (so anything that avoids ticks will also avoid the
| > decrement) and once it reaches 0 the task will be queued at the tail of
| > its static priority and reset the slice. If there is no other task on
| > that same priority we'll again schedule that task.
| > 
| > In short, don't use SCHED_RR and don't worry about time_slice.
| 
| There was meaningless code in there. I guess it was in there from CFS.
| Thanks for the explanation, Peter.

Yes, it was CFS related:

	p = find_lock_task_mm(p);
	...
	p->rt.time_slice = HZ; <<---- THIS

Peter, would that be effective to boost the priority of the dying task?
I mean, in the context of SCHED_OTHER tasks would it really help the dying
task to be scheduled sooner to release its resources? If so, as we remove
the code in commit 93b43fa5508 we should re-add that old code.

Luis
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-28 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110314232156.0c363813.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
     [not found] ` <20110315153801.3526.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
2011-03-22 11:04   ` [patch 0/5] oom: a few anti fork bomb patches KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:05     ` [PATCH 1/5] vmscan: remove all_unreclaimable check from direct reclaim path completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 14:49       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  5:21         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  6:59           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:13             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  8:24               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  8:44                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  9:02                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  2:11                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  2:21                       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  2:48                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  3:04                           ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-24  5:35                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  4:19                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  5:35                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  5:53                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  6:16                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  6:32                               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:03                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:25                                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:28                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:34                                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:41                                         ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24  7:43                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24  7:43                           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  7:41       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  7:55         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 11:06     ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "oom: give the dying task a higher priority" KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:42       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23 13:40         ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-24  0:06           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-24 15:27       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:48         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 12:28           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28  9:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:21           ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 12:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 12:40               ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-28 13:10                 ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves [this message]
2011-03-28 13:18                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-03-28 13:56                     ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2011-03-29  2:46                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-28 13:48                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:08     ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: create oom autogroup KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-22 23:21       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-23  1:27         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  2:41           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-03-22 11:08     ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: introduce wait_on_page_locked_killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:44       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-24 15:04       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-22 11:09     ` [PATCH 5/5] x86,mm: make pagefault killable KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23  7:49       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-03-23  8:09         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-23 14:34           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-24 15:10       ` Minchan Kim
2011-03-24 17:13       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-24 17:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-28  7:00           ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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