From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Itaru Kitayama <kitayama@cl.bb4u.ne.jp>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 23:23:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110422212300.GC2977@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110422023226.GB6199@localhost>
On Fri 22-04-11 10:32:26, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:41:54AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> > On Thu 21-04-11 14:05:56, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:39:40PM +0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:33:25AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > > I collected the writeback_single_inode() traces (patch attached for
> > > > > your reference) each for several test runs, and find much more
> > > > > I_DIRTY_PAGES after patchset. Dave, do you know why there are so many
> > > > > I_DIRTY_PAGES (or radix tag) remained after the XFS ->writepages() call,
> > > > > even for small files?
> > > >
> > > > What is your defintion of a small file? As soon as it has multiple
> > > > extents or holes there's absolutely no way to clean it with a single
> > > > writepage call.
> > >
> > > It's writing a kernel source tree to XFS. You can find in the below
> > > trace that it often leaves more dirty pages behind (indicated by the
> > > I_DIRTY_PAGES flag) after writing as less as 1 page (indicated by the
> > > wrote=1 field).
> > As Dave said, it's probably just a race since XFS redirties the inode on
> > IO completion. So I think the inodes are just small so they have only a few
> > dirty pages so you don't have much to write and they are written and
> > redirtied before you check the I_DIRTY flags. You could use radix tree
> > dirty tag to verify whether there are really dirty pages or not...
>
> Yeah, Dave and Christoph root caused it in the other email -- XFS sets
> I_DIRTY which accidentally sets I_DIRTY_PAGES. We can safely bet there
> are no real dirty pages -- otherwise it would have turned up as
> performance regressions.
Yes, but then the question what we actually do better is still open,
right? :) I'm really curious what it could be because especially in your
copy-kernel case I should not make much different - maybe except if we
occasionally managed to block on PageLock behind the writing thread and now
we don't because we queue the inode later but I find that highly unlikely.
> > BTW a quick check of kernel tree shows the following distribution of
> > sizes (in KB):
> > Count KB Cumulative Percent
> > 257 0 0.9%
> > 13309 4 45%
> > 5553 8 63%
> > 2997 12 73%
> > 1879 16 80%
> > 1275 20 83%
> > 987 24 87%
> > 685 28 89%
> > 540 32 91%
> > 387 36 ...
> > 309 40
> > 264 44
> > 249 48
> > 170 52
> > 143 56
> > 144 60
> > 132 64
> > 100 68
> > ...
> > Total 30155
> >
> > And the distribution of your 'wrote=xxx' roughly corresponds to this...
>
> Nice numbers! How do you manage to account them? :)
Easy shell command (and I handcomputed the percentages because I was lazy
to write a script for that):
find . -type f -name "*.[ch]" -exec du {} \; | cut -d ' ' -f 1 |
sort -n | uniq -c
Honza
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-22 21:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-19 3:00 [PATCH 0/6] writeback: moving expire targets for background/kupdate works Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 3:00 ` [PATCH 1/6] writeback: pass writeback_control down to move_expired_inodes() Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 3:00 ` [PATCH 2/6] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 7:02 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 7:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 9:31 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 3:00 ` [PATCH 3/6] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 7:35 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 9:57 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 12:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 13:46 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 1:21 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-20 2:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 0:45 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 2:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 3:01 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 3:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 4:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 4:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 6:36 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 16:04 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-22 2:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-22 21:12 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-26 5:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-26 14:30 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20 7:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 1:01 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 1:47 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 3:00 ` [PATCH 4/6] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_cleaned Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 9:47 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 3:00 ` [PATCH 5/6] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 10:20 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-19 11:16 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 21:10 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-20 7:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-20 15:22 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-21 3:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 4:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 6:05 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 16:41 ` Jan Kara
2011-04-22 2:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-22 21:23 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2011-04-21 7:09 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 7:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 7:52 ` Dave Chinner
2011-04-21 8:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-19 3:00 ` [PATCH 6/6] NFS: return -EAGAIN when skipped commit in nfs_commit_unstable_pages() Wu Fengguang
2011-04-19 3:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-04-19 3:55 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 4:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-19 6:38 ` [PATCH 0/6] writeback: moving expire targets for background/kupdate works Dave Chinner
2011-04-19 8:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 4:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 5:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 5:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 6:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-04-21 7:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-21 10:15 ` Wu Fengguang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-07-22 5:09 [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] writeback: try to write older pages first Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 5:09 ` [PATCH 5/6] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 17:39 ` Jan Kara
2010-07-26 12:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:39 ` Wu Fengguang
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