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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:28:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110427102801.GF31015@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.00.1104261140010.9169@sister.anvils>

Hello, Hugh.

On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:02:15PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> This worried me a little when the percpu block counting went into tmpfs,
> though it's not really critical there.
> 
> Would it be feasible, with these counters that are used against limits,
> to have an adaptive batching scheme such that the batches get smaller
> and smaller, down to 1 and to 0, as the total approaches the limit?
> (Of course a single global percpu_counter_batch won't do for this.)
> 
> Perhaps it's a demonstrable logical impossibility, perhaps it would
> slow down the fast (far from limit) path more than we can afford,
> perhaps I haven't read enough of this thread and I'm taking it
> off-topic.  Forgive me if so.

Hmmm... it seems like what you're suggesting is basically a simple
per-cpu slot allocator.

* The global counter is initialized with predefined number of slots
  and per-cpu buffers start at zero (or with initial chunks).

* Allocation first consults per-cpu buffer and if enough slots are
  there, they're consumed.  If not, global counter is accessed and
  some portion of it is transferred to per-cpu buffer and allocation
  is retried.  The amount transferred is adjusted according to the
  amount of slots available in the global pool.

* Free populates the per-cpu buffer.  If it meets certain criteria,
  part of the buffer is returned to the global pool.

The principles are easy but as with any per-cpu allocation scheme
balancing and reclaiming would be the complex part.  ie. What to do
when the global and some per-cpu buffers are draining while a few
still have some left.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-27 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-13 14:45 percpu: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 16:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 18:56   ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-13 20:22     ` [PATCH] " Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 21:50       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-13 22:17         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 22:23           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 23:55             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-14  2:00               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14  2:14       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 21:10         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-14 21:15           ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-15 17:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-15 18:27               ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-15 19:43                 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-15 23:52                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-18 14:38                     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 14:43                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 14:58                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 17:50                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:01                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 18:20                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:37                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 18:54                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 19:08                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-22  2:33                                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-26 12:10                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-26 19:02                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-27 10:28                                             ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-04-27  5:43                                           ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-27 10:20                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28  3:28                                               ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-28 10:09                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:11                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:23                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:30                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:58                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:42                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:44                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:52                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:56                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:05                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:12                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:22                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:31                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:40                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:47                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:48                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 15:59                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 16:17                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 16:35                                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 16:52                                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 16:59                                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-29  8:52                                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29  8:32                                                                             ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-29  8:19                                                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-29  8:44                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:02                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:03                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:18                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:25                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:43                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:55                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-05  4:08                                                               ` Shaohua Li

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