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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:52:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110429085210.GK16552@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1304009996.5827.3.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 06:59:56PM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Le jeudi 28 avril 2011 a 11:52 -0500, Christoph Lameter a ecrit :
> 
> > I can still add (batch - 1) without causing the seqcount to be
> > incremented.
> 
> It always had been like that, from the very beginning.

This doesn't matter.  At this level, the order of concurrent
operations is not well defined.  You might as well say "oh well, then
the update happened after the sum is calculated".

The problem I have with the interface are two-folds.

1. Is it even necessary?  With concurrent updates, we don't and can't
   define strict order of updates across multiple CPUs.  If we sweep
   the counters without being intervened (IRQ or, well, NMI), it
   should be and has been acceptable enough.

2. Let's say we need this.  Then, @maxfuzzy.  Few people are gonna
   understand it well and use it properly.  Why can't you track the
   actual deviation introduced since sum started instead of tracking
   the number of deviation events?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-29  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-13 14:45 percpu: preemptless __per_cpu_counter_add Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 16:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 18:56   ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-13 20:22     ` [PATCH] " Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 21:50       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-13 22:17         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 22:23           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-13 23:55             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-14  2:00               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14  2:14       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-14 21:10         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-14 21:15           ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-15 17:37             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-15 18:27               ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-15 19:43                 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-15 23:52                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-18 14:38                     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 14:43                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 14:58                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 17:50                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:01                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 18:20                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 18:37                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-21 18:54                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-21 19:08                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-22  2:33                                       ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-26 12:10                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-26 19:02                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2011-04-27 10:28                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-27  5:43                                           ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-27 10:20                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28  3:28                                               ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-28 10:09                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:11                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:23                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:30                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:58                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:42                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:44                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 14:52                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 14:56                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:05                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:12                                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:22                                                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:31                                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:40                                                                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-28 15:47                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 15:48                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 15:59                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 16:17                                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 16:35                                                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-28 16:52                                                                             ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-28 16:59                                                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2011-04-29  8:52                                                                                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-04-29  8:32                                                                             ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-29  8:19                                                   ` Shaohua Li
2011-04-29  8:44                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:02                                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:03                                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:18                                                         ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:25                                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2011-04-29 14:43                                                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-04-29 14:55                                                               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-05-05  4:08                                                               ` Shaohua Li

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