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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Jay <jinshan.xiong@whamcloud.com>,
	stable@kernel.org, Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: Fix assertion mapping->nrpages == 0 in end_writeback()
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 00:01:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110613220144.GL4907@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110608163643.GE5361@quack.suse.cz>

On Wed 08-06-11 18:36:43, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Tue 07-06-11 14:33:01, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 07:46:37 +0200
> > Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Either way, I don't think that the uglypatch expresses a full
> > > > understanding of te bug ;)
> > > 
> > > I don't see a better way, how would we make nrpages update atomically
> > > wrt the radix-tree while using only RCU?
> > > 
> > > The question is, does it matter that those two can get temporarily out
> > > of sync?
> > > 
> > > In case of inode eviction it does, not only because of that BUG_ON, but
> > > because page reclaim must be somehow synchronised with eviction.
> > > Otherwise it may access tree_lock on the mapping of an already freed
> > > inode.
> > > 
> > > In other cases?  AFAICS it doesn't matter.  Most ->nrpages accesses
> > > weren't under tree_lock before Nick's RCUification, so their use were
> > > just optimization.   
> > 
> > Gee, we've made a bit of a mess here.
> > 
> > Rather than bodging around particualr codesites where that mess exposes
> > itself, how about we step back and work out what our design is here,
> > then implement it and check that all sites comply with it?
> > 
> > What is the relationship between the radix-tree and nrpages?  What are
> > the locking rules?  Can anyone come up with a one-sentence proposal?
> AFAIU, nrpages and radix-tree are consistent under tree_lock.
> 
> nrpages is only used (well, apart from shmfs and other filesystems which
> use the value as a guess how much should they expect to write or similar
> heuristics) to test mapping->nrpages == 0 and the test is performed without
> any synchronization which looks natural because we later do only
> rcu-protected lookups anyway. So it seems it's expected the test is
> unreliable and we just use it to make things faster. The same race as with
> nrpages test can happen during the radix tree lookup anyway...
> 
> I went through the tests and the only place which seems to really care
> about the races with __add_to_page_cache() or __delete_from_page_cache()
> is when the inode should be removed from memory. There we have to be
> careful. Races with __add_to_page_cache() cannot happen because there is
> noone who could trigger addition of new page to the inode being evicted.
> Races with __delete_from_page_cache() are possible though...
  Andrew, any opinion on this? I'd like to get the bug fixed... I'll
happily move the nrpages check in end_writeback() under the spinlock if
people find that nicer. That place really looks like the only one which
depends on nrpages being consistent and uptodate.

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-13 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-30  9:37 [PATCH] mm: Fix assertion mapping->nrpages == 0 in end_writeback() Jan Kara
2011-06-06 22:16 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-07  5:46   ` Miklos Szeredi
2011-06-07 18:22     ` Jinshan Xiong
2011-06-08 16:40       ` Jan Kara
2011-06-08 20:10         ` Jinshan Xiong
2011-06-07 21:33     ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-08 16:36       ` Jan Kara
2011-06-13 22:01         ` Jan Kara [this message]
2011-06-13 22:14           ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-13 22:49             ` Jan Kara
2011-06-13 22:58               ` Andrew Morton

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