From: Larry Bassel <lbassel@codeaurora.org>
To: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Cc: 'Arnd Bergmann' <arnd@arndb.de>,
'Zach Pfeffer' <zach.pfeffer@linaro.org>,
'Daniel Walker' <dwalker@codeaurora.org>,
'Daniel Stone' <daniels@collabora.com>,
'Jesse Barker' <jesse.barker@linaro.org>,
'Mel Gorman' <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
'KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki' <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
'Michal Nazarewicz' <mina86@mina86.com>,
linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
'Kyungmin Park' <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
'Ankita Garg' <ankita@in.ibm.com>,
'Andrew Morton' <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] [PATCH 08/10] mm: cma: Contiguous Memory Allocator added
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 14:39:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110615213958.GB28032@labbmf-linux.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000901cc2b37$4c21f030$e465d090$%szyprowski@samsung.com>
On 15 Jun 11 10:36, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:42 PM Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday 14 June 2011 20:58:25 Zach Pfeffer wrote:
> > > I've seen this split bank allocation in Qualcomm and TI SoCs, with
> > > Samsung, that makes 3 major SoC vendors (I would be surprised if
> > > Nvidia didn't also need to do this) - so I think some configurable
> > > method to control allocations is necessarily. The chips can't do
> > > decode without it (and by can't do I mean 1080P and higher decode is
> > > not functionally useful). Far from special, this would appear to be
> > > the default.
We at Qualcomm have some platforms that have memory of different
performance characteristics, some drivers will need a way of
specifying that they need fast memory for an allocation (and would prefer
an error if it is not available rather than a fallback to slower
memory). It would also be bad if allocators who don't need fast
memory got it "accidentally", depriving those who really need it.
> >
> > Thanks for the insight, that's a much better argument than 'something
> > may need it'. Are those all chips without an IOMMU or do we also
> > need to solve the IOMMU case with split bank allocation?
> >
> > I think I'd still prefer to see the support for multiple regions split
> > out into one of the later patches, especially since that would defer
> > the question of how to do the initialization for this case and make
> > sure we first get a generic way.
> >
> > You've convinced me that we need to solve the problem of allocating
> > memory from a specific bank eventually, but separating it from the
> > one at hand (contiguous allocation) should help getting the important
> > groundwork in at first.
> >
> > The possible conflict that I still see with per-bank CMA regions are:
> >
> > * It completely destroys memory power management in cases where that
> > is based on powering down entire memory banks.
>
> I don't think that per-bank CMA regions destroys memory power management
> more than the global CMA pool. Please note that the contiguous buffers
> (or in general dma-buffers) right now are unmovable so they don't fit
> well into memory power management.
We also have platforms where a well-defined part of the memory
can be powered off, and other parts can't (or won't). We need a way
to steer the place allocations come from to the memory that won't be
turned off (so that CMA allocations are not an obstacle to memory
hotremove).
>
> Best regards
> --
> Marek Szyprowski
> Samsung Poland R&D Center
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-15 21:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-10 9:54 [PATCHv10 0/10] Contiguous Memory Allocator Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 01/10] lib: bitmap: Added alignment offset for bitmap_find_next_zero_area() Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 02/10] lib: genalloc: Generic allocator improvements Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 11:24 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-10 12:22 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 12:52 ` Alan Cox
2011-06-10 17:16 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 15:49 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Jordan Crouse
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 03/10] mm: move some functions from memory_hotplug.c to page_isolation.c Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 04/10] mm: alloc_contig_freed_pages() added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 05/10] mm: alloc_contig_range() added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 06/10] mm: MIGRATE_CMA migration type added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 07/10] mm: MIGRATE_CMA isolation functions added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 08/10] mm: cma: Contiguous Memory Allocator added Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 16:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-13 9:05 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-14 13:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 13:55 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 16:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 16:58 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-14 18:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 18:40 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15 7:11 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15 7:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 8:14 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-16 0:48 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Philip Balister
2011-06-16 7:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 7:03 ` Hans Verkuil
2011-06-22 7:32 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22 12:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 13:15 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-22 13:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-22 16:04 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-22 15:54 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15 11:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2011-06-15 13:12 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2011-06-17 16:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 17:01 ` Daniel Stone
2011-06-14 18:58 ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-06-14 20:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-14 21:01 ` Jordan Crouse
2011-06-15 11:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 8:36 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15 21:39 ` Larry Bassel [this message]
2011-06-15 22:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 17:01 ` Larry Bassel
2011-06-17 12:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-07-04 5:25 ` Ankita Garg
2011-07-04 14:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 3:20 ` Zach Pfeffer
2011-06-15 9:26 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15 11:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-15 11:30 ` Michal Nazarewicz
2011-06-15 6:01 ` Subash Patel
2011-06-15 8:02 ` Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-15 11:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] ARM: integrate CMA with dma-mapping subsystem Marek Szyprowski
2011-06-10 9:54 ` [PATCH 10/10] ARM: S5PV210: add CMA support for FIMC devices on Aquila board Marek Szyprowski
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