From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
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Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@gmail.com>,
ak@linux.intel.com, shaohua.li@intel.com, alex.shi@intel.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Re: REGRESSION: Performance regressions from switching anon_vma->lock to mutex
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:01:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110616210119.GD23624@somewhere.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110616202550.GA16214@elte.hu>
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:25:50PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > > The funny thing about this workload is that context-switches are
> > > really a fastpath here and we are using anonymous IRQ-triggered
> > > softirqs embedded in random task contexts as a workaround for
> > > that.
> >
> > The other thing that the IRQ-triggered softirqs do is to get the
> > callbacks invoked in cases where a CPU-bound user thread is never
> > context switching.
>
> Yeah - but this workload didnt have that.
>
> > Of course, one alternative might be to set_need_resched() to force
> > entry into the scheduler as needed.
>
> No need for that: we can just do the callback not in softirq but in
> regular syscall context in that case, in the return-to-userspace
> notifier. (see TIF_USER_RETURN_NOTIFY and the USER_RETURN_NOTIFIER
> facility)
>
> Abusing a facility like setting need_resched artificially will
> generally cause trouble.
If the task enqueued callbacks in the kernel, thus started a new grace period,
it might return to userspace before every CPUs have completed that grace period,
and you need that full completion to happen before invoking the callbacks.
I think you need to keep the tick in such case because you can't count on
the other CPUs to handle that completion as they may be all idle.
So when you resume to userspace and you started a GP, either you find another
CPU to handle the GP completion and callbacks executions, or you keep the tick
until you are done.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-16 21:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-15 0:29 REGRESSION: Performance regressions from switching anon_vma->lock to mutex Tim Chen
2011-06-15 0:36 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-17 19:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-15 1:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-15 3:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-15 1:26 ` Shaohua Li
2011-06-15 11:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-15 12:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-15 16:18 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-15 16:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-15 16:47 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-15 18:43 ` Tim Chen
2011-06-15 20:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-15 20:57 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-15 21:12 ` Tim Chen
2011-06-15 21:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-15 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-15 22:19 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-16 0:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-16 20:14 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-16 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 0:24 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-17 9:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-15 22:15 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-16 1:08 ` Tim Chen
2011-06-16 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-16 20:26 ` Tim Chen
2011-06-16 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-16 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-16 21:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-16 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 3:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 11:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-17 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-17 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 17:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-17 17:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-17 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 18:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-17 18:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-17 18:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 20:19 ` Tim Chen
2011-06-17 22:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2011-06-18 4:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 19:53 ` [PATCH] mm, memory-failure: Fix spinlock vs mutex order Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-17 20:04 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-17 16:46 ` REGRESSION: Performance regressions from switching anon_vma->lock to mutex Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-17 19:40 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-18 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-17 18:22 ` Tim Chen
2011-06-17 19:05 ` Ray Lee
2011-06-16 22:00 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-15 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-15 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-15 11:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-06-15 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-15 19:24 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-15 20:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-15 20:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-15 20:12 ` [GIT PULL] " Ingo Molnar
2011-06-15 20:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-15 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-15 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-15 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-15 21:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-15 21:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-06-16 7:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-16 17:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-16 20:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-16 21:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2011-06-16 23:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-17 15:19 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-06-16 21:02 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-16 22:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-06-16 22:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-16 22:47 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-16 22:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-17 0:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-17 9:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-17 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-16 23:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-06-15 20:13 ` Tim Chen
2011-06-15 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-06-15 20:21 ` Tim Chen
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