From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: make the threshold of enabling THP configurable
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:15:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110622111525.GK9396@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E01C80F.8070605@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 06:46:39PM +0800, Cong Wang wrote:
> ??? 2011???06???22??? 17:16, Mel Gorman ??????:
> >
> >What I meant was that there is a rational reason why 512M is the
> >default for enabling THP by default. Tuning it lower than that by any
> >means makes very little sense. Tuning it higher might make some sense
> >but it is more likely that THP would simply be disabled via sysctl. I
> >see very little advantage to introducing this Kconfig option other
> >than as a source of confusion when running make oldconfig.
> >
>
> The tunable range is (512, 8192), so 512M is the minimum.
>
> Sure, I knew it can be disabled via /sys, actually we can do even
> more in user-space, that is totally move the 512M check out of kernel,
> why we didn't?
>
Because the reason why 512M is the default is not obvious and there
was no guarantee all distros would chose a reasonable default for
an init script (or know that an init script was even necessary).
This is one of the few cases where there is a sensible default that
is the least surprising.
> In short, I think we should either remove the 512M from kernel, or
> make 512M to be tunable.
>
That just hands them a different sort of rope to hang themselves with
where THP gets enabled on small machines or botting with mem=128M
and getting surprised later by the high min_free_kbytes.
At this point, I don't really care if the Kconfig entry exists or
not. I think it gains nothing but additional confusion for people
who write .config files but it's not a topic I want to discuss for
days either.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-22 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-20 16:34 [PATCH 1/3] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=never Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: make the threshold of enabling THP configurable Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:59 ` Dave Hansen
2011-06-20 17:23 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:59 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:16 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21 9:36 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22 2:41 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 9:16 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-22 10:46 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 11:15 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-06-22 12:34 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: print information when THP is disabled automatically Amerigo Wang
2011-06-20 16:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 17:25 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:01 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:26 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 19:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21 9:40 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 16:50 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: completely disable THP by transparent_hugepage=never Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-20 16:55 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:01 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 19:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21 3:15 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 16:58 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-20 17:07 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:10 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:19 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:28 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 17:34 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:50 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-20 18:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-06-20 19:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21 4:08 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-21 14:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-22 2:56 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-22 14:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-06-21 20:01 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-21 3:28 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:58 ` Eric B Munson
2011-06-21 3:36 ` Cong Wang
2011-06-20 17:59 ` Vivek Goyal
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