From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: P?draig Brady <P@draigBrady.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Colin King <colin.king@canonical.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: Correct check for kswapd sleeping in sleeping_prematurely
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:39:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110630093933.GY9396@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110628144900.b33412c6.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 02:49:00PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 15:44:54 +0100
> Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > During allocator-intensive workloads, kswapd will be woken frequently
> > causing free memory to oscillate between the high and min watermark.
> > This is expected behaviour.
> >
> > A problem occurs if the highest zone is small. balance_pgdat()
> > only considers unreclaimable zones when priority is DEF_PRIORITY
> > but sleeping_prematurely considers all zones. It's possible for this
> > sequence to occur
> >
> > 1. kswapd wakes up and enters balance_pgdat()
> > 2. At DEF_PRIORITY, marks highest zone unreclaimable
> > 3. At DEF_PRIORITY-1, ignores highest zone setting end_zone
> > 4. At DEF_PRIORITY-1, calls shrink_slab freeing memory from
> > highest zone, clearing all_unreclaimable. Highest zone
> > is still unbalanced
> > 5. kswapd returns and calls sleeping_prematurely
> > 6. sleeping_prematurely looks at *all* zones, not just the ones
> > being considered by balance_pgdat. The highest small zone
> > has all_unreclaimable cleared but but the zone is not
> > balanced. all_zones_ok is false so kswapd stays awake
> >
> > This patch corrects the behaviour of sleeping_prematurely to check
> > the zones balance_pgdat() checked.
>
> But kswapd is making progress: it's reclaiming slab. Eventually that
> won't work any more and all_unreclaimable will not be cleared and the
> condition will fix itself up?
>
It might, but at that point we've dumped as much slab as we can which
is very aggressive and there is no guarantee the condition is fixed
up. For example, if fork is happening often enough due to terminal
usage for example, it may be just enough allocation requests satisified
from the highest zone to clear all_unreclaimable during exit.
> btw,
>
> if (!sleeping_prematurely(...))
> sleep();
>
> hurts my brain. My brain would prefer
>
> if (kswapd_should_sleep(...))
> sleep();
>
> no?
>
kswapd_try_to_sleep -> should_sleep feel like it would hurt too. I
prefer the sleeping_prematurely name because it indicates what
condition we are checking but I'm biased and generally suck at naming.
> > Reported-and-tested-by: Padraig Brady <P@draigBrady.com>
>
> But what were the before-and-after observations? I don't understand
> how this can cause a permanent cpuchew by kswapd.
>
Padraig has reported on his before-and-after observations.
On its own, this patch doesn't entirely fix his problem because all
the patches are required but I felt that a rolled-up patch would be
too hard to review.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-30 9:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-24 14:44 [PATCH 0/4] Stop kswapd consuming 100% CPU when highest zone is small Mel Gorman
2011-06-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: Correct check for kswapd sleeping in sleeping_prematurely Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 21:33 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-27 6:10 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-28 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-29 10:57 ` Pádraig Brady
2011-06-30 9:39 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2011-06-30 2:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: vmscan: Do not apply pressure to slab if we are not applying pressure to zone Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 21:40 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-28 23:38 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-30 2:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: vmscan: Evaluate the watermarks against the correct classzone Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 21:42 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-27 6:53 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-28 12:52 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-28 23:23 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-28 23:23 ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-24 14:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: Only read new_classzone_idx from pgdat when reclaiming successfully Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 23:17 ` Rik van Riel
2011-06-30 9:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-30 10:19 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-19 16:09 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-20 10:48 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 15:30 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:07 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:36 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 17:01 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 0:21 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-22 7:42 ` Mel Gorman
2011-06-25 14:23 ` [PATCH 0/4] Stop kswapd consuming 100% CPU when highest zone is small Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-21 15:37 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:09 ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:24 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:36 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-21 16:42 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:58 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-07-22 0:30 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-22 13:21 ` Andrew Lutomirski
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-24 13:43 Mel Gorman
2011-06-24 13:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: vmscan: Correct check for kswapd sleeping in sleeping_prematurely Mel Gorman
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