From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] implement SL*B and stack usercopy runtime checks
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 22:57:09 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110703185709.GA7414@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzXEoTyK0Sm-y=6xGmLMWzQiSQ7ELJ2-WL_PrP3r44MSg@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 11:27 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> That patch is entirely insane. No way in hell will that ever get merged.
Sure, this is just an RFC :) I didn't think about proposing it as a
patch as is, I tried to just show how/what checks it introduces.
> copy_to/from_user() is some of the most performance-critical code, and
> runs a *lot*, often for fairly small structures (ie 'fstat()' etc).
>
> Adding random ad-hoc tests to it is entirely inappropriate. Doing so
> unconditionally is insane.
That's why I've asked whether it makes sense to guard it with
CONFIG_XXX, defaults to =n. Some distributions might think it makes
sense to enable it sacrificing some speed.
Will do.
> If you seriously clean it up (that at a minimum includes things like
> making it configurable using some pretty helper function that just
> compiles away for all the normal cases,
Hm, it is not as simple as it looks at the first glance - even if the
object size is known at the compile time (__compiletime_object_size), it
might be a field of a structure, which crosses the slab object
boundaries because of an overflow.
However, if interpret constants fed to copy_*_user() as equivalent to
{get,put}_user() (== worry about size argument overflow only), then it
might be useful here.
> if (!slab_access_ok(to, n) || !stack_access_ok(to, n))
OK :)
Thanks!
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-03 18:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-03 11:10 [RFC v1] implement SL*B and stack usercopy runtime checks Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-03 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-03 18:57 ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2011-07-03 19:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-03 19:24 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-03 19:37 ` Joe Perches
2011-07-03 19:53 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-06 3:39 ` Jonathan Hawthorne
2011-07-18 18:39 ` [RFC v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-18 18:52 ` Andrew Morton
2011-07-18 19:33 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-19 7:40 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-18 19:08 ` Matt Mackall
2011-07-18 19:24 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-18 21:18 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-19 6:53 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
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