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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, XFS <xfs@oss.sgi.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v2
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:20:55 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110726112055.GC8048@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1311265730-5324-1-git-send-email-mgorman@suse.de>

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 05:28:42PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> Warning: Long post with lots of figures. If you normally drink coffee
> and you don't have a cup, get one or you may end up with a case of
> keyboard face.

[snip]

> Overall, having kswapd avoiding writes does improve performance
> which is not a surprise. Dave asked "do we even need IO at all from
> reclaim?". On NUMA machines, the answer is "yes" unless the VM can
> wake the flusher thread to clean a specific node.

Great answer, Mel. ;)

> When kswapd never
> writes, processes can stall for significant periods of time waiting on
> flushers to clean the correct pages. If all writing is to be deferred
> to flushers, it must ensure that many writes on one node would not
> starve requests for cleaning pages on another node.

Ok, so that's a direction we need to work towards, then.

> I'm currently of the opinion that we should consider merging patches
> 1-7 and discuss what is required before merging. It can be tackled
> later how the flushers can prioritise writing of pages belonging to
> a particular zone before disabling all writes from reclaim.

Sounds reasonable to me.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-26 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-21 16:28 [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v2 Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 1/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 15:06   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-02 11:21     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 2/8] xfs: Warn if direct reclaim tries to writeback pages Mel Gorman
2011-07-24 11:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-07-25  8:19     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 3/8] ext4: " Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 10:58   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 11:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:44       ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 14:00         ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 14:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-08-03 14:35           ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 4/8] btrfs: " Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 11:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:45     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 5/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in kswapd except in high priority Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 15:11   ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 6/8] mm: vmscan: Throttle reclaim if encountering too many dirty pages under writeback Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 15:17   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-03 11:19   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:56     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 7/8] mm: vmscan: Immediately reclaim end-of-LRU dirty pages when writeback completes Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 12:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 13:23     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-31 15:24       ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-02 11:25         ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 11:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:57     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-21 16:28 ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages from kswapd Mel Gorman
2011-07-22 12:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-07-22 13:31     ` Mel Gorman
2011-08-03 11:37   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-03 13:58     ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-26 11:20 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2011-07-27  4:32 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] Reduce filesystem writeback from page reclaim v2 Minchan Kim
2011-07-27  7:37   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-27 16:18 ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-28 11:38   ` Mel Gorman
2011-07-29  9:48     ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-29  9:50       ` Minchan Kim
2011-07-29 13:41         ` Andrew Lutomirski

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