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From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] page count lock for simpler put_page
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:08:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110812170823.GM7959@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110812165749.GA29086@redhat.com>

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 06:57:49PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> I understand you want to be careful with the promises you make in the
> API.  How about not even exposing the check for whether a grace period
> elapsed, but instead provide a specialized synchronize_rcu()?
> 
> Something like
> 
> 	void synchronize_rcu_with(rcu_time_t time)
> 
> that only promises all readers from the specified time are finished.
> 
> [ And synchronize_rcu() would be equivalent to
>   synchronize_rcu_with(rcu_current_time()) if I am not mistaken. ]
> 
> Then you wouldn't need to worry about how the return value of
> rcu_cookie_gp_elapsed() might be interpreted, could freely implement
> it equal to synchronize_rcu() on TINY_RCU, the false positives with
> small cookies would not be about correctness but merely performance.
> 
> And it should still be all that which the THP case requires.
> 
> Would that work?

rcu_time_t would still be an unsigned long long like I suggested?

About the false positives thing, I failed to see how it's ever
possible to return only false positives and never false negatives when
cookie and internal counter are not of the same size (and cookie has
no enough bits to ever tell if it overflowed or not).

I think rcu_generation_t is more appropriate because it's not time but
a generation/sequence counter.

The ideally the comparison check would be just an inline function
reading 2 longs in reverse order in 32bit and comparing it with the
stable value we have in page[1]->something_low and
page[1]->something_high , so skipping an external call sounds better
to me, but the above should also work.

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-12 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-04 21:07 [RFC PATCH 0/3] page count lock for simpler put_page Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-04 21:07 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: Replace naked page->_count accesses with accessor functions Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-04 21:07 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: page count lock Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-07 14:00   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-04 21:07 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm: get_first_page_unless_zero() Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-07 14:13   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-05  6:39 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] page count lock for simpler put_page Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-07 14:25   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-09 11:04     ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-09 22:22       ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-12 22:35         ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-13  4:07           ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-12 15:36       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-12 16:08         ` SPAM: " Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 16:43           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-12 17:27             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 23:45               ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-13  1:57                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-13 23:56                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-13  4:18             ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-12 16:57           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 17:08             ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2011-08-12 17:52               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 18:13                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 19:05                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 22:14                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 22:22                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-12 18:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 17:41             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 17:56               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 23:02           ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-12 22:50         ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-13  4:11         ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-12 16:58   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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