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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] page count lock for simpler put_page
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:07:46 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110813040746.GA1905@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANN689HQjNUDHWXn9PuvHxP0A-6_ypsW=jdt=UvnMr8M0xm-WA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 03:35:25PM -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:39:19PM -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
> >>>> I can see that the page_cache_get_speculative comment in
> >>>> include/linux/pagemap.h maps out one way to prevent the issue. If
> >>>> thread T continually held an rcu read lock from the time it finds the
> >>>> pointer to P until the time it calls get_page_unless_zero on that
> >>>> page, AND there was a synchronize_rcu() call somewhere between the
> >>>> time a THP page gets allocated and the time __split_huge_page_refcount
> >>>> might first get called on that page, then things would be safe.
> >>>> However, that does not seem to be true today: I could not find a
> >>>> synchronize_rcu() call before __split_huge_page_refcount(), AND there
> >>>> are also places (such as deactivate_page() for example) that call
> >>>> get_page_unless_zero without being within an rcu read locked section
> >>>> (or holding the zone lru lock to provide exclusion against
> >>>> __split_huge_page_refcount).
> >>
> >> Going forward, I can see several possible solutions:
> >> - Use my proposed page count lock in order to avoid the race. One
> >> would have to convert all get_page_unless_zero() sites to use it. I
> >> expect the cost would be low but still measurable.
> >
> > It's not necessary to apply it on *all* get_page_unless_zero sites.
> > Because deactivate_page does it on file pages while THP handles only anon pages.
> > So the race should not a problem.
> 
> But it doesn't matter what kind of page the get_page_unless_zero call
> site hopes to get a reference on - if it doesn't already hold a
> reference on the page (either directly as a reference, or if a known
> mapping points to that page and the page table lock is taken or
> interrupts are disabled in order to guarantee the mapping won't get
> yanked), then the page can get yanked and a THP page could show up
> there before the call site gets a reference.

As I said, the caller of deactivate hold a reference at now so it should be okay.
But I admit deactivate_page doesn't have to call get_page_unless_zero but get_page
is enough if caller makes sure to hold a reference on the page like current situation.
I will add such comment on the deactivate_page and change get_page_unless_zero with
get_page for easy use in future.

I have't notice that.
Thanks for giving the chance to think of it, Michel.

> 
> >> - Protect all get_page_unless_zero call sites with rcu read lock or
> >> lru lock (page_cache_get_speculative already has it, but there are
> >> others to consider), and add a synchronize_rcu() before splitting huge
> >> pages.
> >
> > I think it can't be a solution.
> > If we don't have any lock for protect write-side, page_count could be
> > unstable again while we peek page->count in
> > __split_huge_page_refcount after calling synchronize_rcu.
> > Do I miss something?
> 
> The tail page count would be unstable for at most one rcu grace period
> after the page got allocated. This is guaranteed by making all
> get_page_unless_zero call sites make sure they somehow determine the
> page is not a THP tail page (for example because they found it in
> radix tree) before calling get_page_unless_zero and having an rcu read
> lock wrapping these two together. This is basically the protocol
> described in the comment for page_cache_get_speculative() in pagemap.h

Absolutely

> 
> -- 
> Michel "Walken" Lespinasse
> A program is never fully debugged until the last user dies.

-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-13  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-04 21:07 [RFC PATCH 0/3] page count lock for simpler put_page Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-04 21:07 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm: Replace naked page->_count accesses with accessor functions Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-04 21:07 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm: page count lock Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-07 14:00   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-04 21:07 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm: get_first_page_unless_zero() Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-07 14:13   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-05  6:39 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] page count lock for simpler put_page Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-07 14:25   ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-09 11:04     ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-09 22:22       ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-12 22:35         ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-13  4:07           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2011-08-12 15:36       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-12 16:08         ` SPAM: " Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 16:43           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-12 17:27             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 23:45               ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-13  1:57                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-13 23:56                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-13  4:18             ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-12 16:57           ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 17:08             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-12 17:52               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 18:13                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 19:05                   ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 22:14                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 22:22                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-08-12 18:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 17:41             ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-08-12 17:56               ` Johannes Weiner
2011-08-12 23:02           ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-12 22:50         ` Michel Lespinasse
2011-08-13  4:11         ` Minchan Kim
2011-08-12 16:58   ` Andrea Arcangeli

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