From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@vsecurity.com>,
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
Jesper Juhl <jj@chaosbits.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm: restrict access to /proc/slabinfo
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:48:26 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110914154826.GA9942@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110914154229.GA9776@albatros>
(cc'ed Dave back, sorry for the noise)
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 19:42 +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 08:18 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 17:16 +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> > > > World readable slabinfo simplifies kernel developers' job of debugging
> > > > kernel bugs (e.g. memleaks), but I believe it does more harm than
> > > > benefits. For most users 0444 slabinfo is an unreasonable attack vector.
> > >
> > > Please tell if anybody has complains about the restriction - whether it
> > > forces someone besides kernel developers to do "chmod/chgrp". But if
> > > someone want to debug the kernel, it shouldn't significantly influence
> > > on common users, especially it shouldn't create security issues.
> >
> > Ubuntu ships today with a /etc/init/mounted-proc.conf that does:
> >
> > chmod 0400 "${MOUNTPOINT}"/slabinfo
> >
> > After cursing Kees's name a few times, I commented it out and it hasn't
> > bothered me again.
>
> Another way is chgrp slabinfo to some "admin" group which are privileged
> in this sense and add your user to this group. But please, sane and
> secure defaults!
>
> > I expect that the folks that really care about this (and their distros)
> > will probably have a similar mechanism. I guess the sword cuts both
> > ways in this case: it obviously _works_ to have the distros do it, but
> > it was a one-time inconvenience for me to override that.
> >
> > In other words, I dunno. If we do this in the kernel, can we at least
> > do something like CONFIG_INSECURE to both track these kinds of things
> > and make it easy to get them out of a developer's way?
>
> What do you think about adding your user to the slabinfo's group or
> chmod it - quite the opposite Ubuntu currently does? I think it is more
> generic (e.g. you may chmod 0444 to allow all users to get debug
> information or just 0440 and chgrp admin to allow only trusted users to
> do it) and your local policy doesn't touch the kernel.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Vasiliy Kulikov
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2011-09-10 16:41 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm: restrict access to /proc/slabinfo Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-12 15:06 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-09-13 6:28 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 13:16 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 15:18 ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-14 15:42 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 15:48 ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2011-09-14 18:24 ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-14 18:41 ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-14 19:14 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-14 19:27 ` Kees Cook
2011-09-18 17:05 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 13:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-19 14:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 14:46 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 15:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 15:57 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 16:11 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 16:18 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 17:31 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 17:35 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 17:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-19 19:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-19 20:02 ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-19 20:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-19 17:51 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 17:58 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 18:46 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 18:55 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-19 19:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 19:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-09-19 19:18 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 19:45 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 20:59 ` David Rientjes
2011-09-19 18:03 ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-19 18:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-09-19 19:45 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-19 19:55 ` Alan Cox
2011-09-21 17:05 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-22 2:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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