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From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Kees Cook <kees@ubuntu.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: restrict access to /proc/meminfo
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:28:21 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110929172821.GA19601@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110929161848.GA16348@albatros>

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 20:18 +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 13:33 -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> > I'd much rather just convert everything to use MB rather than KB so you 
> > can't determine things at a page level.  I think that gets us much closer 
> > to what the patch is intending to restrict.  But I also expect some 
> > breakage from things that just expect meminfo to be in KB units without 
> > parsing what the kernel is exporting.
> 
> I'm not convinced with rounding the information to MBs.  The attacker
> still may fill slabs with new objects to trigger new slab pages
> allocations.  He will be able to see when this MB-granularity barrier is
> overrun thus seeing how many kbs there were before:
> 
>     old = new - filled_obj_size_sum
> 
> As `new' is just increased, it means it is known with KB granularity,
> not MB.  By counting used slab objects he learns filled_obj_size_sum.

s/filled_obj_size_sum/old/ of course.

> So, rounding gives us nothing, but obscurity.
> 
> Thanks,

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-09-29 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-27 17:54 [PATCH 1/2] mm: restrict access to slab files under procfs and sysfs Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-27 17:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: restrict access to /proc/meminfo Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-27 18:27   ` David Rientjes
2011-09-27 19:14     ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-27 19:38   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-27 20:03     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-27 20:33       ` David Rientjes
2011-09-27 20:47         ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-28 20:31           ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-28 20:52             ` Alan Cox
2011-09-29  0:43             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-29 14:11               ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-29 16:18         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-29 16:30           ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-29 16:43             ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-29 16:57           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-09-29 17:25             ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-29 17:28           ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2011-09-28 21:46     ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-30 19:53       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-30 20:03         ` Andrew Morton
2011-09-30 20:12           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-30 20:15           ` Dave Hansen
2011-09-27 18:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: restrict access to slab files under procfs and sysfs Christoph Lameter
2011-09-27 19:16   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-09-27 19:35     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-09-27 18:21 ` David Rientjes
2011-09-27 20:00   ` Pekka Enberg

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